PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[sairaus]

I can understand that stance azur, but IMO wintrading being an exploit or not, I believe solo ques are doomed as long as 4 man premades can que against each other and get solo que points. until those glaring issues are fixed I would never go back to solo que and I would hope no one else would either 30 min ques<instaques

[ish007xx]

i would 4v4 if people actually battled instead of just throwing games for free xp

[Azurymber]

i would 4v4 if people actually battled instead of just throwing games for free xp

same here. 4v4 would be nice but if you queue it's just people pulling out non stop

[MakoRaiju]

I can understand that stance azur, but IMO wintrading being an exploit or not, I believe solo ques are doomed as long as 4 man premades can que against each other and get solo que points. until those glaring issues are fixed I would never go back to solo que and I would hope no one else would either 30 min ques<instaques

Ofc you wont go back to solo queue when you can make arrangements with your 2nd party that you queue up with that you have already arranged who is gonna win this and that round. Thats why its called win-trading and the fact that its instant because its already 4v4 makes it even better. Not to mention the queues beeing bad is because everyone is arranging with a 2nd team to arrange wins and losses in the fastest possible way in turns. And because of this, solo queues are taking forever beacuse there simply is not enough players of different ranks in the solo/duo/triple queues. These are points that have already been mentioned and also something you yourself have said that you are taking a part in doing so why are you saying different things after? Are you just spinning more excuses to justify these actions or do you just dont understand the concept of what everyone have been trying to discuss here?

Making teams of 4s to pvp against other teams of 4s is at NOT what ppl are discussing here, that would have been fine and all that where there is actual competition on winning/losing. ARRANGING wins and loses is what ppl is reacting on, queueing two teams up together for instant queue and just farm each other in turns.

[Okazaki]

Making teams of 4s to pvp against other teams of 4s is at NOT what ppl are discussing here, that would have been fine and all that where there is actual competition on winning/losing. ARRANGING wins and loses is what ppl is reacting on, queueing two teams up together for instant queue and just farm each other in turns.

Exactly this, the queue is designed for 4 people to RANDOMLY ecounter another group of 4. Not to enter as 8 with a predetermined win/lose agenda.

[sairaus]

okazaki ur very close to the root of the problem. the 2nd sentence needs to be "being able to arrange any type of 4v4 insta que fight is killing solo que, esp when you get solo que pts for it."