Tanks/Threat/lowlevels Please fix this.

[Coth_X]

Go back and read the first post please.

If i really wanted to make a suggestion that made more sense to mr coth I'd probably ask them to:

But Coth wont stand for a simple swap in Shield Oath to make the job more enjoyable for what reason is beyond me, so we'll see how he reacts to this list i guess..

Perhaps you should go back and read your original post, the original post was not an attempt at opening up discussion on flash or pld rotations, it was a request to make shield oath occur 4 dungeons worth of levels sooner.

Also, I really don't have to keep beating a dead horse, but hey why not one more time, your request only affects 4 dungeons in the entire game, and they are pre50 dungeons. Also, not to mention the whole if you're leveling GLD you'll have to do Haukke manor for a couple of levels without PLD even unlocked.

You can request this all you want, but you're still going to need solid tanking skills in the early dungeons.

I am in absolute agreement on defiance/oaths not being lost on death though.

The basic reason is that it's not really a problem so why bother fixing it? I've yet to meet anyone that thinks that GLD and PLD have insufficient enmity generation tools at any point except for those people that think that enmity should be a complete and utter joke at all times. Flash works just fine and ShO isn't even really needed until your late-40s. The only reason that anyone complains about not getting Shield Oath at 30 is because WARs get Defiance at 30 (and the reason that WARs get it at 30 is that *every single one* of their other job abilities depends upon it). If WARs got Defiance at 40, you can be damned sure no one would be complaining.

Quoting this part of kitru's post cause I wanted to say WARs would be complaining cause they'd be doing 10 levels worth of dungeons and not be able to use inner beast or unchained