Names for Tempering

[Anonymoose]

Was this through genocide of the Othardian beast tribes? If you remove the tribes, there is no one to summon the primal.

That's a big unknown. We know they fought primals there, but under what circumstance? Were the beast tribes from outside of the cities like they are in Eorzea, or were they the primary inhabitants of said cities? Were they even "beast tribes" or were they just "people?" We know they have at least a couple of "the wandering races" there, in addition to whatever race the Doma are (inb4 Domans = beast tribes conspiracy theories). Did they have their own icon gods? Were the Ascians involved there before they came here? What then was the significance of the Silverlake seal? Was there one there? How long as the fall of the Sixth Astral Era really been in motion if Primals preexisted Hydaelyn's echo? Why do I have the feeling this is going to remain unanswered until we go there in a far-off expansion pack?

At what point to they start listening to the advice of Ascians?

This one is much easier. The Black Wolf's second invasion was implied to be of his own doing, completely independent of the homeland. When the XIVth Tribuni arrived, Nero and Livia spoke of the Emperor having one foot in the grave and the other desperately clinging to his throne as rivals began to vie for power. By the time the Domans show up, they claim that a full-scale war of succession is being waged in Garlemald. I think it's heavily implied that when unrest engulfed the homeland, Lahabrea came to Gaius in an hour of desperation - he'd failed to gain a foothold beyond Ala Mhigo (1557), failed to take Silvertear without incident and lost Agrius (1562), and was holding a stalemate for ten years before being put under the command of a primal-worshiping, moon-dropping maniac. This was Gaius' last chance to win back the respect and power that he'd lost, to be seen as The Black Wolf once again. He stretched himself to his limits and was desperate to succeed - that's when the Ascians come for you. Same with Thancred, save for the fact Thancred had to be taken over rather than just manipulated.