Echo

[sheepysheepy]

Winning the fight in general: Dealing X% more DPS means the fight is X% shorter. Therefore, fewer chances to make mistakes. You're also pushing phases, resulting in fewer mechanics to deal with.

So please, don't claim that Echo doesn't make this fight considerably easier. You're failing to acknowledge everything other than the first three points listed above, which is a really ignorant thing to do. Apply this same logic to every other fight in the game. Echo buff is OP.

On the other hand the fight was well-tuned and a pretty easy 'dance' to learn, and now the phaseshifts can be very messy and you have to be pretty careful how much dps you're doing at certain points, to the point that i had a better chance of winning before 2.2

[Lemon8or]

On the other hand the fight was well-tuned and a pretty easy 'dance' to learn, and now the phaseshifts can be very messy and you have to be pretty careful how much dps you're doing at certain points, to the point that i had a better chance of winning before 2.2

Depends. Before 2.2, other people in my FC couldn't kill heart before circle bomb which leads to the ermergerd moments when that and landslide comes out and people still try to kill the heart. If you're already killing titan before 2.2, you won't even need 5% echo.

so the content has to tolerate people making mistakes and not working perfectly together as a team.

Not Coil or coil 2. Raid contents have always been aimed towards people that work as a team to perfection. Otherwise, where's the challenge for them? The echo helps put your minds away from DPS/heal check and focus on executing mechanics.