Yeah, don't come back yet.
Echo doesn't help that much on T5. The better advantage is that makes easier is to sell runs ,so they shoud not be very expensive right now.
But... DF? With 8 random people? No. I don't think that will happend in months.
Yeah, don't come back yet.
Echo doesn't help that much on T5. The better advantage is that makes easier is to sell runs ,so they shoud not be very expensive right now.
But... DF? With 8 random people? No. I don't think that will happend in months.


Beatable? Yes! With Duty Finder? No, with Party Finder? 50 - 60% Chance. ( People still died at Dive Bomb and Twister. ) The fight is really easy if everyone know the Mechanic and how to Dodge. It not that high of a DPS check due to the huge buff. Conflag shouldn't be a problem anymore if you form a soak party and everyone know when to run in or unless everyone is severely under gear. If you can get pass all Dive Bomb and ovoid Twister, it a Win everytime. Twister can still one shot you.


I managed to kill Twintania using the DF. Judging from the achieves, there were 3 new players. Don't know if the others were friends or strangers.
All the echo in the world won't save you from twisters when it's an instant kill. (Hallowed Ground won't even stop it) It's avoid it or die and likely kill multiple people in the process.
That's where i'm stuck too!!! Does anyone know when the next scheduled buff is?
**Edit I CAN dodge them but others not so much. We fall apart during that phase. Practice practice prac....*throws controller
Last edited by Mergadeth; 05-07-2014 at 05:14 AM.


Twisters is a one shot mechanic, I don't even know if it's assigned a numerical damage value. Even if you had 99,999 HP it would still instantly kill you, that's how it's designed. All the buffs in the world won't save you if you can't learn how to dodge them.


Twister is a very easy mechanic to dodge. All you have to do is watch Twintania's cast bar when she starts using twister you just start moving and not cross paths with anyone else and don't stop moving till the cast goes off. Back when it was current content the hardest part for us was getting past dive bombs, twisters were a joke to dodge though post nerf almost nobody ever died to these.
Huh? No way. Just because a DS won't one shot a tank doesn't mean it won't 2 shot a tank. Just because a snake won't need massive dps during weakness doesn't mean it won't need a focus push during weakness.But I think what you said is opposite. Those dps stuffs, healing stuffs is basically the hardest part of the fight that limited only people who skilled in their role to win. Those mechanic about general conflag, dive bomb, dreds, twisters are all the easy part of the fight, as long as people are not so slow in learning.
How are those the hardest or even remotely hard mechanics? You learn them doing it twice.
You are doing the exact same things as 2.1 twin. It's in no way easier. It makes it easier to train for twin, and remove stupid wipes. Wipes that occurred by people that can do things correctly, but just screwed up for a split second.
Let's put it in reverse. Anyone that learns and beats 2.2 twin can go back to 2.1 twin (no echo) and beat it with a few tries.
Last edited by kukurumei; 05-07-2014 at 04:53 AM.
A few things can help with twisters:
1. Everyone should have Twintania focus targeted. If you have to, make the focus target frame SOOPER HOOGE and put it somewhere very visible (towards the middle of your screen or, if you're a healer, closer to your party frames).
2. Have someone fire off a macro in /p when the cast starts to catch those who happen to not be looking at that second (this is just a crutch thing, but it can help). Include a sound like <se.1> in the macro for added benefit.
3. Make sure to NEVER cross paths with anyone during the twister cast.
The hardest part with twisters is keeping your attention split between dreadknights and the boss. Once you can manage that, they're super easy.![]()

My group finally beat it last month it was a good victory with 10% echo. Twisters and dreds took use a little while to master but the echo will not save u from twisters, dred and hatch. this is going to be something u will have to learn with a static group its still not easy.
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