Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Penguinmayhem]

There's a veritable plethora of content in the game currently, and it's well-paced to boot. Don't depend on a single game to be your sole source of entertainment.

Right now, the progression past i90 is "do Coil, do Coil or do Coil"

They've kneecapped the game by putting all three "different methods of progression" into Coil, behind Coil's lockout mechanics and RNG. If you want to get to the top of the gear ladder, you do Coil. No choice. Do Coil. Want to do something else? Well we've got Hard Mode dungeons that you need to finish the main quest to access, which means doing a mandatory Full Party instance. We've got Primals, which are all Full Party instances. We've got FATEs that you can't do solo. It's that or Coil.

[Raenryong]

Why should easy solo content grant access to high/top end gear?

[silentwindfr]

Why should easy solo content grant access to high/top end gear?

you know that they can make solo content hard? just saying...
for a lot of people if is not raid is easy. i know some game where you can get solo/duo/group content extremely hard and demanding. why add this sort of thing? because not everybody want to log in the game for simply go into a raid every day. a change of pace that still hard and demanding can be really good.
Raid is nice, but seriously, had more content different can be nice.

[Menriq]

you know that they can make solo content hard? just saying...
for a lot of people if is not raid is easy. i know some game where you can get solo/duo/group content extremely hard and demanding. why add this sort of thing? because not everybody want to log in the game for simply go into a raid every day. a change of pace that still hard and demanding can be really good.
Raid is nice, but seriously, had more content different can be nice.

I'm not sure if you were around for beta, but some of the class quests were quite challenging (thinking specifically of the level 15 BLM one). There was a lot of uproar over this(and others), and it seemed right around then they changed the mentality to make things a lot easier.

[Raenryong]

you know that they can make solo content hard? just saying...
for a lot of people if is not raid is easy. i know some game where you can get solo/duo/group content extremely hard and demanding. why add this sort of thing? because not everybody want to log in the game for simply go into a raid every day. a change of pace that still hard and demanding can be really good.
Raid is nice, but seriously, had more content different can be nice.

I agree with you. As long as the content is comparable in difficulty to raids, it can have similar rewards (though I still feel raiding should award the very highest tier of drops since it does require the most teamwork/group co-ordination and is effectively the pinnacle of PvE). What I do not agree with is having high tier things drop from easy stuff like beastmen dailies/hard mode dungeons/fates/etc.

[silentwindfr]

*sighs* i know, like the quest level 15 at the end of the city quest, with the antidote...
a lot of change was made in the beta that wasn't very...smart. but well, i'm just saying is possible and maybe is a good idea to bring back some hard content that are not raid for add more diversity to the game!

I agree with you. As long as the content is comparable in difficulty to raids, it can have similar rewards (though I still feel raiding should award the very highest tier of drops since it does require the most teamwork/group co-ordination and is effectively the pinnacle of PvE). What I do not agree with is having high tier things drop from easy stuff like beastmen dailies/hard mode dungeons/fates/etc.

true, but stuff like beastmen dailies are extremely long..... freaking long, easy... but really long.
but i want to see more content, i'm sick of this way of thinking, saying only raid can provide challenge. we can get soo much more than this! we are in 2014 and we have acces to much more technology, more stuff was create over the years and you can't say me they can't bring some nice challenge into the game.

[TeganLaron]

sighs i know, like the quest level 15 at the end of the city quest, with the antidote...
a lot of change was made in the beta that wasn't very...smart. but well, i'm just saying is possible and maybe is a good idea to bring back some hard content that are not raid for add more diversity to the game!



true, but stuff like beastmen dailies are extremely long..... freaking long, easy... but really long.
but i want to see more content, i'm sick of this way of thinking, saying only raid can provide challenge. we can get soo much more than this! we are in 2014 and we have acces to much more technology, more stuff was create over the years and you can't say me they can't bring some nice challenge into the game.

I agree with you that they could bring in a lot more challenging solo content. However...it's an MMO. Playing with others is kind of the idea, ya know?

Like I said I agree and would like to see it too, but don't get your hopes up.

[sylent09]

Why should easy solo content grant access to high/top end gear?

Because we have to grind longer for it. Which were willing to do.

[TeganLaron]

Sounds like OP may just need a break. Also.. he has yet to beat T9 but he is right in that there is nothing to do aside from coil for the best gear. Kinda sad... some nice side grades that arent coil related would be nice

Thornmarch EX drops a neck piece and Levi EX drops weapons and shields.

Unless you're wanting things like Brayflox HM to drop i100 gear I'm not sure what you want.

Because we have to grind longer for it. Which were willing to do.

Tell that one of the hundreds of people whining and complaining about the Atma quest line.

[Raenryong]

Because we have to grind longer for it. Which were willing to do.

Why should the best gear be awarded on the basis of time spent and not skill demonstrated?