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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Here's a thing for oh-so-bored contentburners out there:
    OFFER TO DO TRAINING RUNS (no, not for gil)
    ...problem solved, end of story.

    No, seriously, I'm sick and tired of every single PF looking for "i9k+ and kill exp only otherwise we hunt down your family and burn down your house", but nobody ever offering to teach anything, anywhere. And then of course those same people getting mad as hell if they can't get a party together for whatever they wanna do and ragequit if they try DF and find one or two newbies in there. Like, what do you expect?? Nobody's forcing you to complete everything in shorter-than-should-be-possible time - if that's what's fun for you, sure, go ahead. But please don't expect everybody else to be like that as well, and don't expect SE to cater to those specific needs of yours either.
    You can look at a 7 minute youtube guide and know a lot about a fight. You will still most likely die, but you will KNOW what you died from and how to correct it instead of going "WTF WAS THAT" after dying from a mechanic you had no idea about (and will die to again because of this reason). A lot of PF groups are like that because some people want to farm content for a piece of gear they want without spending the first 15-30 mins wiping while teaching someone. You may think this is unreasonable, but after having it happen to you 10 times, you'd rather just cut through that phase and get 7 like-minded players together (learning groups exist for this reason).

    On a sidenote, a lot of players don't get mad when they group up with new people, they get mad when they group up with new people at endgame who do not even know their class. I'm sorry, but you cannot properly learn a fight if you still cannot properly DPS, or heal, or keep enmity and rotate between defensive cooldowns. There are resources outside the game that teach you this, and if you're a DPS, then training dummies exist for this purpose.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    I would just prefer new and fun achievements. That's what gives hardcore raiders something to do on WoW at the moment.
    Don't know about WoW. But Rift had that (don't know which did first, dont care:P ). Also certain Raid bosses had triggers you could activate for the Hard Mode of the fight. eg: First fight in Endless Eclipse had 4 bosses before main boss, you killed them one at a time, but, if you killed them in a certain order it activated the hard version of the fight. Another one had a Boss frozen behind the normal boss, edge around and free that one and itactivated Hard mode with different mechanics and two instead of just the one boss to fight.

    Off the top of my head, one they could add is Twintania, break her collar and she becames stronger with more mechanics. Leave her collar and its as normal. Drops a mini Twintania minion.

    SWTOR had a good (in theory) system for raiding with having 3 levels of difficulty. Story mode, which was the easiest. NOrmal mode, which was, well the normal difficulty, and finally nightmare mode being the most difficult. (Albeit for a few months, hardest thing about SWTOR raids was the RNG of whether the bugs would derp you over or not:P )
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Here's a thing for oh-so-bored contentburners out there:
    OFFER TO DO TRAINING RUNS (no, not for gil)
    ...problem solved, end of story.

    No, seriously, I'm sick and tired of every single PF looking for "i9k+ and kill exp only otherwise we hunt down your family and burn down your house", but nobody ever offering to teach anything, anywhere.
    You do realise that many, many of those are made by players who, between the lines, are saying "I want experienced people to join to carry me through the fight".

    You do know you can make your own PF parties stating the requirements you want, instead of just trying to find someone else who did that for you?
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    You do realise that many, many of those are made by players who, between the lines, are saying "I want experienced people to join to carry me through the fight".
    Not just that but that's also all I'm reading out of his post. I have no trouble finding experienced people to do content with so it looks like he is projecting his own frustrations. A training run is inexperienced people getting together to learn content, experienced people taking an inexperienced person is called a carry.
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  5. #135
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    yeah yeah u beat T9 now ur bored go do something else on the game do levi ex or mog ex or help people. people need stop saying there bored there's enough content in the game good lord u dont have to do coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atkinsj7 View Post
    yeah yeah u beat T9 now ur bored go do something else on the game do levi ex or mog ex or help people.
    Cause that's not what some people pay to play this game for, to walk people through content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    So they should be relegated to teaching most of the playerbase? When they've likely taught many people already? There comes a point when you just get tired of teaching people CONSTANTLY, and just want a win. This isn't unreasonable in the slightest.
    "You are allowed to play however you want, as long as it is in the way I want." - the "anti-elitist" creed.
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    Rawr, meow, nya!
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    [QUOTE=Kiara;2072124] snip

    All of that you mentioned in XI was implemented over a number of years and this game isn't even a year old yet. Give them some time, they are pumping out a lot more content then XI did in a year so imagine how much this game will have a number of years from now. However this is ladder progression game not horizontal like IX, so I don't expect to see a lot of that type of progression
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    Last edited by drivendawn; 05-04-2014 at 03:04 PM.

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    Oh my gosh, hardcore casuals? lawl
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