Can we have something for the sever firsts?

[Aubog007]

MMOs are also about forming an effective hall of fame for your achievements, and these items would stand as a testament to the achievements and abilities of the group who did it, long after the content is top tier.

Ive played quite a bit of MMOs. I really havent seen ingame rewards for server firsts.

There was only one or two "rewards" one was by basically who can log in the fastest, and the other was who can spend more money.
Not everyone is on equal ground. Seeing achievements that are impossible to get actually discourage me from playing.

One game solved that problem by actually hiding the achievements after someone got it.

[Kuwagami]

MMOs are also about forming an effective hall of fame for your achievements, and these items would stand as a testament to the achievements and abilities of the group who did it, long after the content is top tier.

hmmm no ? An achievement is supposed to last. There is no meaning in such a thing for content downed to hell by nerfing and heavy overgearing over the time.

I could agree in an horizontal progression MMO, where the content would always remain top tier. That's not the case here. You just have to see how some groups are stomping on T5 already without mastering anything. Some groups even barely manage to kill Asclepius in time with 15% echo.

Saying "I cleared it before twisters nerf" or anything is meaningless. You cleared it, they cleared it as well, that's the only truth. All you can have is YOUR pride knowing you got it first (or so you think), without smashing it in other people's face with exclusive titles or anything like that.

[Aubog007]

What ever happened to doing something for your own satisfaction, and not for the satisfaction and gloating to other players?

Make your "i beat xxx thread!!" And be done! Let the grats and celebrations fade and move on to the next big thing.

Lest you want to be like cynical old people and go "back in my day..." Kinda makes you look like you are rooted in the past.

[Raenryong]

Not everyone is on equal ground. Seeing achievements that are impossible to get actually discourage me from playing.

One game solved that problem by actually hiding the achievements after someone got it.

Yet you're never going to get most achievements. Few people will be part of a pre-nerf T9 clear, I am sure. Were you part of a pre-nerf T5 clear? To expect all achievements to be achievable by everyone - to the very worst and most terrible of players - just completely undermines any sense of challenge or accomplishment in a game.

hmmm no ? An achievement is supposed to last. There is no meaning in such a thing for content downed to hell by nerfing and heavy overgearing over the time.

Which is why if you give reward(s) for clearing content when it is at its pinnacle...

All you can have is YOUR pride knowing you got it first (or so you think), without smashing it in other people's face with exclusive titles or anything like that.

Unless they implement something like this...

That said, given the extremely carebear and inept playerbase that this game seems to attract, they would never dare implement something like this in case they hurt some carebear's precious feelings.

[Moqi]

Yet you're never going to get most achievements. Few people will be part of a pre-nerf T9 clear, I am sure. Were you part of a pre-nerf T5 clear? To expect all achievements to be achievable by everyone - to the very worst and most terrible of players - just completely undermines any sense of challenge or accomplishment in a game.

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

[Raenryong]

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

What's the point of even having achievements if the hardest you get is faceroll stuff like "get a job to level 50!" or "complete a hard mode dungeon!"?

[SarcasmMisser]

This thread has convinced me, you absolutely do not need unique rewards for server firsts at all. Apparently even the mere existence of progression threads cause posters to get their panties in a twist and become vexed, an achievement or title is just overkill. I don't really understand how you can get irritated by others having fun through friendly competition, different strokes for different folks.

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

Do you get bothered by what other people consider fun?

[Moqi]

What's the point of even having achievements if the hardest you get is faceroll stuff like "get a job to level 50!" or "complete a hard mode dungeon!"?

They're as pointless as any other achievement you can come up with, but people like trophies. They may motivate some people who like them to try out stuff they would never consider otherwise though.

[ReiszRie]

Well i have even seen people bragging about having server's first Zantetsuken and stuff, can't blame them, they're in deperate need for any form of recognition and fame because they don't have either IRL.

[Hysterior]

First!!!!!