Can we have something for the sever firsts?

[Moqi]

Yet you're never going to get most achievements. Few people will be part of a pre-nerf T9 clear, I am sure. Were you part of a pre-nerf T5 clear? To expect all achievements to be achievable by everyone - to the very worst and most terrible of players - just completely undermines any sense of challenge or accomplishment in a game.

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

[Raenryong]

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

What's the point of even having achievements if the hardest you get is faceroll stuff like "get a job to level 50!" or "complete a hard mode dungeon!"?

[Moqi]

What's the point of even having achievements if the hardest you get is faceroll stuff like "get a job to level 50!" or "complete a hard mode dungeon!"?

They're as pointless as any other achievement you can come up with, but people like trophies. They may motivate some people who like them to try out stuff they would never consider otherwise though.

[SarcasmMisser]

This thread has convinced me, you absolutely do not need unique rewards for server firsts at all. Apparently even the mere existence of progression threads cause posters to get their panties in a twist and become vexed, an achievement or title is just overkill. I don't really understand how you can get irritated by others having fun through friendly competition, different strokes for different folks.

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

Do you get bothered by what other people consider fun?

[Kuwagami]

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Sorry but all I see in your posts is a desperate need of attention. "Watch me watch me I did this !! Watch me !!"

This thread has convinced me, you absolutely do not need unique rewards for server firsts at all. Apparently even the mere existence of progression threads cause posters to get their panties in a twist and become vexed, an achievement or title is just overkill. I don't really understand how you can get irritated by others having fun through friendly competition, different strokes for different folks.

There is a difference between Player competition and achievements.
Progression team have their playground, with their threads and other stuff. They can do all the things they want as long as they don't smash it in the faces of people who have no interest in such a competition.

I mean, sure you did amazing stuff, clearing it faster than anyone with iL lower than what the average populace is capable of. But what's the point ? This is already an achievement, why do you so desperately need a title/minion/stuff for that ?

For what it's worth, the only ones who deserves anything are the world first. And guess what ? they got congratulations from Yoshida. I thinks that's a good enough reward. If you want it too, you gotta move and make much better than "server first"

[Raenryong]

Sorry but all I see in your posts is a desperate need of attention. "Watch me watch me I did this !! Watch me !!"

I see nothing wrong in good players being rewarded.

There is a difference between Player competition and achievements.
Progression team have their playground, with their threads and other stuff. They can do all the things they want as long as they don't smash it in the faces of people who have no interest in such a competition.

How would having a unique title or mount or furnishing be "smash[ing] it in the faces of people who have no interest..."?

I mean, sure you did amazing stuff, clearing it faster than anyone with iL lower than what the average populace is capable of. But what's the point ? This is already an achievement, why do you so desperately need a title/minion/stuff for that ?

Why do you need to be rewarded for anything? Because this is a game which purportedly rewards accomplishment.

Well i have even seen people bragging about having server's first Zantetsuken and stuff, can't blame them, they're in deperate need for any form of recognition and fame because they don't have either IRL.

As opposed to every underachieving baddy who can't do a fight to save his/her life who are accomplished CEOs and philanthropists in real life, obviously.

[Hysterior]

I see nothing wrong in good players being rewarded.

if it involved people not sleeping, not going out out all just to get a trophy, I have a problem with
I am sure SE don't want some new stories of players fainting (or worth) because of non-stop playing just for a stupid trophy
they will never do it and should NEVER do it

[Kuwagami]

I see nothing wrong in good players being rewarded.

well, you have the loot before anyone else. grats ! .... and that's it

How would having a unique title or mount or furnishing be "smash[ing] it in the faces of people who have no interest..."?

If you haven't noticed the people changing stances all the time to say "hey watch me I have XXX gerolt's weapon. Oh I even have high allagan look meeeeeeeeeeeh !!", or simplier just jumping all around to show every naab there how awesome they are, then you might be one of them.

Why do you need to be rewarded for anything? Because this is a game which purportedly rewards accomplishment.

It's easy to ignore what I said like just after that. Something like "World first already got their fame moment" and "server first is totally meaningless, only world first has any significance" ?
You are rewarded with iL115 weapons (currently). That should be enough. If you want more, get world first in 2.4 and be done with it

[ReiszRie]

As opposed to every underachieving baddy who can't do a fight to save his/her life who are accomplished CEOs and philanthropists in real life, obviously.

Is that even a rebuttal?

/justsaying