Just had a pretty entertaining Pharos run.

[Huntington]

I don't need to make anything up, you yourself have said what happened and it's apparent to most here (apart from your FC buddies posting in your defence...) that you were playing poorly and with bad manners from the start.

Funny how you can never see how silly your making yourself look and refuse to be wrong.

Why don't you go and ask yourself why the majority share my opinion on this matter and not yours...


No I do not play a tank, not do I play a high level summoner, but it's very easy for anyone with end game experience to spot a bad summoner.


You do have a high level summoner and yet you make posts saying a ACN can do more DPS than a SMN, and you say my posts contain a lot of "idiocy" xD


When a tank is doing large pulls they need the trash to die fairly quickly, if your gimping your dps trying to "micro manage"/use a tanking pet, it's no great surprise the party wiped really is it?

DPS can be and often are responsible for "tanking fails" too.


You say your Titan Egi can hold agro against good/well geared BLM's? You should make a video of this to prove it xD As imho that is non sense.

Playing poorly? I'm a great Summoner by this point, maybe it's hard trying to fathom how someone can manage a pet yet still do their rotations and play the class right, but you have no evidence for play performance, I'd like to see you go level several classes and get back to me on that.



And judging by all your posts, either you're on your phone or a tablet or you failed remedial English several times. Take your pick of assumptions there's plenty for everyone.

And how am I bad? Titan still does damage, Garuda auto-attacking with Wind Blade does not mean I'm playing the class wrong. I'm still managing his attacks and controlling what he targets, I'm still getting my three standard dots on then Bane'ing them to others with Miasma 2, still popping cooldowns and using Fester and Swiftcast Shadow Flare, still routinely using Enkindle buffed with Rouse and Spur, and so on and so forth. Oh noes! The Summoner has a tank pet out! He clearly cannot use anything else effectively now! If only I actually played the class to end-game and knew what I was talking about!

How cute, still bringing up something from months ago, you must still be sore about something, but then again the thread got bumped again so you could go and reminisce over how clever your atrocious grammar and spelling is when you popped your cherry for making fun of someone still being a novice to a class at the time. Aren't you fantastic.

You definitely can't read now. The Tank died, Titan prevented anyone else from dying, I micro-manage just fine, but I repeat again ad nauseam. When did God give you omniscience so you could tell how well I play? Enlighten me.

Yeah maybe if I attacked before he had enmity established, or maybe if I ran ahead of him, or maybe if I didn't watch the enmity list to see if I was close to pulling, or maybe if I didn't attack in a marked order if there was one, or maybe if I didn't start with the target they hit first, or anything else. None of that happened. The tank went Rambo and ran ahead without saying anything.

Yeah I'll record a video and mail it to your mailbox and make you pay the return shipping. Because you seem to be too ignorant to figure out that any class that generates enmity can create a sizable cushion to prevent it from losing enmity if other's attacking the same thing don't immediately hit the target before that happens ya nimrod.

[scarebearz]

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Ah yes, my spelling and grammar, I did wonder when you would start bringing irrelevant into this, as counter argument, hows this going for you? Are you "winning" now? xD

I'm not sure what I can say to counter that awesome argument.


On to your next counter argument, oh your right I don't have every class to level 50, but wait, you've already used that one :/ see above.

Because you seem to be too ignorant to figure out that any class that generates enmity can create a sizable cushion to prevent it from losing enmity if other's attacking the same thing don't immediately hit the target before that happens ya nimrod.

Getting DPS to stop DPS'ing for awhile so that Titan Egi can build enmity is not the same as this:

I've had Titan hold hate against BLMs who are the Kings of pulling off Tanks before

To me you seem to be a poor summoner because you obviously don't know the correct time to use your pets, as most others in this thread seem to agree.

You may manage your Titan Egi well for all I know, but the fact is you should not have been using it from the start, it was both rude and a DPS loss.

nimrod.

I guess name calling is your final counter argument?

[Huntington]

Ah yes, my spelling and grammar, I did wonder when you would start bringing irrelevant into this, as counter argument, hows this going for you? Are you "winning" now? xD

I'm not sure what I can say to counter that awesome argument.

I shouldn't be obligated to take seriously someone who can't seriously spell right or enunciate clearly, that's your problem. Get out of my thread now.

[Huntington]

Ah yes, my spelling and grammar, I did wonder when you would start bringing irrelevant into this, as counter argument, hows this going for you? Are you "winning" now? xD

I'm not sure what I can say to counter that awesome argument.

On to your next counter argument, oh your right I don't have every class to level 50, but wait, you've already used that one :/ see above.

So if you haven't even touched the classes yet why should anything you say mean jack squat?

Getting DPS to stop DPS'ing for awhile so that Titan Egi can build enmity is not the same as this:

Regular tanks cant tank if DPS doesn't give them a few seconds to gain enmity, there's no difference if it's a Tank pet or a WAR or PLD doing it, the only real difference is that one is player controlled and one is an AI that has to do the same things over and over again without any variance.

To me you seem to be a poor summoner because you obviously don't know the correct time to use your pets, as most others in this thread seem to agree.

You may manage your Titan Egi well for all I know, but the fact is you should not have been using it from the start, it was both rude and a DPS loss.

"Oh noes! The Summoner has a tank pet out! He clearly cannot use anything else effectively now! If only I actually played the class to end-game and knew what I was talking about!"
>Explains everything that you've been saying, try harder.

I guess name calling is your final counter argument?

You literally are a nimrod, you're easily one of the dumbest users I've came across in my time here, you have so much fun replying to me all the time though that I might as well give you the attention you're looking for.

"Hey guys, we all think this guy's attitude is poor for one reason and one reason only right? So let's make our attitude's foul too, we're absolved of any sin or blame because he was already like this himself!"
I've replied seriously to the people that don't follow me into threads like you do ber, you're fun to toy with which is the only reason I haven't just blocked you then remembered that one of my favorite shows is on Hulu while you scream into the wind because no replies are being noticed.

YOUR replies have never been constructive nor lacking in idiocy or attitude, as Viridana said to me earlier, it's the pot calling the kettle black when you lecture someone on attitude when yours has always sucked, months have gone by and you still act the same way that you did back in February when I had the misfortune to even run across you. As soon as I point out that failed attempt at English though, you fix it to be taken more seriously, already too late by this point because you could tell me the answer to life itself and I wouldn't give a ****, so just take a hike already.

[scarebearz]

So if you haven't even touched the classes yet why should anything you say mean jack squat?


"Oh noes! The Summoner has a tank pet out! He clearly cannot use anything else effectively now! If only I actually played the class to end-game and knew what I was talking about!"
>Explains everything that you've been saying, try harder.

Well few people have actually played their class to current "end-game" (as of 2.2).

I cleared all of the 2.1 content with my BLM and most of it also on my Bard.

I'm currently on T8 with my static as BLM and have carried people for all of the Ex primals.

And one person does not a full party make, regardless of how well I can use my class, it doesn't mean I'm going to be able to carry people through Titan Extreme that can't dodge Weight of the Land or Landslides. I'm locked out of other content because none of the good parties are doing Primals anymore since they're outdated.

It seems you have no real experience of a lot of older "end-game" content, or the newer content.


So you really should get off your high horse when your going to start lecturing people about "end-game" content that you have not done on any class.


Having multiple classes at level 50 means nothing on it's own. I have 2 of the dow/dom classes at 50 on my main, I know BLM pretty well, but I'm not what I would consider a "good Bard", despite being ilvl91 or so. Though I would say I know my main class pretty well and have a reasonable basic understand of the other classes mechanics.

[Huntington]

Well few people have actually played their class to current "end-game" (as of 2.2).

I cleared all of the 2.1 content with my BLM and most of it also on my Bard.

I'm currently on T8 with my static as BLM and have carried people for all of the Ex primals.

No, because I'm not claiming to be some hardcore all day every day Raid content player. I've attempted Garuda Extreme dozens of times after I studied up on and played the fight enough, I never finished it before 2.2 because no one else I ever came across knew what they were doing. Because those exact people already had their pre-formed groups that they set to be their statics for other content. I was with the other people who didn't have enough time to play through the content, or were unable to because of their own skill. Yet I still know how to play my role through each of the fights. I don't have actual experience with Ifrit Extreme yet, and I know what to do for Titan but I have not cleared it because of what I already said.

You are right that I don't have tons of experience with pre-end game content, but that's all it is. A lack of actual experience, but I still know what to do when I actually get to it. The difference with you is you're thinking you're credible enough to diagnose who doesn't know how to use their class because you've dabbled in one Magic and one War class, and barely anything else. Crafting doesn't qualify you to be able to say "Hey White Mage, do you know what Shroud of Saints is so you don't AoE heal right before a fight? Hey PLD, have you tried emptying your MP with Flash at the start then rotating your Rage of Halone combo between each enemy?"

Because you are literally lacking in experience with most of these classes, which means anything you say to other people about them has little to no merit. I don't claim to tell people what they should be doing on a class unless I've had enough firsthand experience with it myself. Then here you are preaching to someone about Summoner when you have a drop in the bucket of time actually using Arcanist and not having even gotten the Job yet.

It seems you have no real experience of a lot of older "end-game" content, or the newer content.


So you really should get off your high horse when your going to start lecturing people about "end-game" content that you have not done on any class.


Having multiple classes at level 50 means nothing on it's own. I have 2 of the dow/dom classes at 50 on my main, I know BLM pretty well, but I'm not what I would consider a "good Bard", despite being ilvl91 or so. Though I would say I know my main class pretty well and have a reasonable basic understand of the other classes mechanics.

When was I lecturing anyone on end-game content? Do you have a quote that shows me telling someone how to play in T6 and beyond? Because all I've told you because you're too ignorant to actually recognize it is that you don't have any classes leveled worth a ****, don't preach to me to start off on how to play something if you've only used BLM and BRD. My god the irony that you're going to turn around and tell me what you've been doing for months is absurd in of itself. Don't tell me how to play SMN if you haven't used the class, and I won't tell you how to use BLM when it's only at level 32 for me right now. Capiche?

[scarebearz]

you're too ignorant to actually recognize it is that you don't have any classes leveled worth a ****

I have played with a fair few summoners, if join a dungeon and I see someone using Titan Egi from the start, I realise this is either a troll or a bad player. (This is pretty much the only answer to your thread and the thing most people agree with)

What's so hard to understand about that?

When was I lecturing anyone on end-game content?

"Oh noes! The Summoner has a tank pet out! He clearly cannot use anything else effectively now! If only I actually played the class to end-game and knew what I was talking about!"

Your the one trying to act like you have played the class for end-game content.


Getting a capable party for Garuda Ex during 2.1 was incredibly easy, on my server at least, most casual players were farming it.

That's not a dig at you, but it's quite true.


Just keep on telling us your a "Great Summoner", one day maybe we'll believe it xD

[Huntington]

I have played with a fair few summoners, if join a dungeon and I see someone using Titan Egi from the start, I realise this is either a troll or a bad player. (This is pretty much the only answer to your thread and the thing most people agree with)

What's so hard to understand about that?

How you've validated in your mind how there's only two types of people that might do that and that there couldn't possibly be any other reason to do it. I don't remember putting a question in the OP that required an answer like that, must be a difference of perception because you think everyone is either a troll or bad player if they don't adhere to strict standards.
And I say again, seeing someone else use a class does not mean or validate that you know how to play it.

Your(*You're) the one trying to act like you have played the class for end-game content.


Getting a capable party for Garuda Ex during 2.1 was incredibly easy, on my server at least, most casual players were farming it.

That's not a dig at you, but it's quite true.

See now that's funny. I have used it a lot in Coil, which is what is the other half of end-game pre 2.2 was, which means since it was my main, it was my most used class. I forgot that >Didn't use it for all Extreme Primals means >No end-game content, oops. When really Coil was the more heavy focus for end-game since it gave armor weapons and accessories and not just accessories, Extreme Primals were there for people who wanted to min-max their characters to BiS lists, but you could still have full 90 gear from Coil with ease.

Every server has different players and people, I shouldn't have to explain that.

[scarebearz]

Because you are literally lacking in experience with most of these classes, which means anything you say to other people about them has little to no merit...

I've told you because you're too ignorant to actually recognize it is that you don't have any classes leveled worth a ****, don't preach to me to start off on how to play something if you've only used BLM and BRD...

Don't tell me how to play SMN if you haven't used the class...

If only I actually played the class to end-game and knew what I was talking about!

So if you haven't even touched the classes yet why should anything you say mean jack squat?

Ok so I now have my ACN leveled to 50, SMN job taken and all class quests unlocked.

I've done some lvl50 content and now have my Levi Ex Weapon.

I can now say with some "merit" that from what you've said about this run you were either being a troll or playing poorly. xD

[scarebearz]

How cute, still bringing up something from months ago, you must still be sore about something, but then again the thread got bumped again so you could go and reminisce over how clever your atrocious grammar and spelling is when you popped your cherry for making fun of someone still being a novice to a class at the time. Aren't you fantastic.

To be fair, your attitude was poor then and it's still poor now.

You were adamant that you were right about everything then and your still adamant that your right about everything now, despite most people telling you otherwise.

Most replies have been constructive criticism, you ask the questions, but you don't want to listen to the answers.

This is a team game and to get the most from your teams (even pugs) you need to play as a team.