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  1. #1
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Dragoon stuck at T5/Titan Ex. 2.2 Gearing advice?

    My static is running into a bit of a bottle neck right now and I'm trying to figure out what would be best gear pieces for my availability as we try to push.

    We have Tier 1-4 on farm and have for a while, and we are currently butting our heads against Titan Ex. I'm wanting to maximise what DPS I have available in order to further my humble little group along, but am running into questions as to Soldiery pieces verses the loss of secondary stats moving forward.

    Here is my current character.

    I'm currently WAY over the accuracy cap for anything we're stuck on, but that's mainly due to Astrum gear. I'm working on Atma for my Relic. However I'm kinda in an awkward position and looking for advice on how to weigh in on some of the pieces I am wearing vs what's available for me to go get.

    Any advice is appreciated guys. Thanks for your time.
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    In my honest opinion it looks like you have enough gear to last well into second coil. You will want either allagan spear or levi ex spear, but other than that you seem geared just fine.

    Also, I find Titan Ex easiest on dragoon. Just try to stick it out, worse comes to worse try joining some pugs (though, admittedly there aren't very many nowadays).

    I'm kinda in the same boat on dragoon, I don't like much of the astrum gear, though, I need a boots upgrade since T5 kill still eludes me as well. After that I'll probably just start buying the tokens in hopes I eventually start downing second coil.
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    Allegan Spear will be more likely as it's often lag/connection issues on behalf of my static that firmly bottle-necks us at Titan Ex. Though I'll still be working on Atma/Animus weapon in the meanwhile. It may be quite a while before good ole Twintania is on farm for me, even if we clear it. So it's a matter of which area is more lucky for me. 3 Atma to go.

    Meanwhile, I'm just trying to make the best of what I got available to me and it's provving a head-scratcher. I'm going to be getting a lot of Astrum and I'm not sure that all of it is better than some of the ilvl90 pieces due to stat weights, but I haven't gotten that far into number crunching.
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    Last edited by Hyrist; 05-14-2014 at 07:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I'm kinda in the same boat on dragoon, I don't like much of the astrum gear, though, I need a boots upgrade since T5 kill still eludes me as well. After that I'll probably just start buying the tokens in hopes I eventually start downing second coil.
    If you can't get the T5 boots then an alternative is the HQ wolfram boots. The stats are almost identical as the T5 boots. The added benefit is you can meld in accuracy, skill speed, and a little more det. Even with out the materia the HQ wolfram boots can take you well into second coil. You can check out mine here http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3303832/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingSlayer View Post
    If you can't get the T5 boots then an alternative is the HQ wolfram boots. The stats are almost identical as the T5 boots. The added benefit is you can meld in accuracy, skill speed, and a little more det. Even with out the materia the HQ wolfram boots can take you well into second coil. You can check out mine here http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3303832/
    Oh I definitely considered the wolfram boots, just a matter of accumulating the gil XD

    I have multiple classes going, so just trying to spend soldiery on gear that I probably won't be seeing for a long time (turns 8-9 mainly).. If I don't get the T5 boots fairly soon I'll probably just end up buying the Astrum since I'm running out of worthwhile pieces to spend soldiery on (outside of tokens)
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    You're more than geared for T5 and Titan Ex.
    Honestly, there isn't much you can do from a gear perspective to make these fight any easier (especially with Echo buff now).
    The best you can do is reflect on what you group is isn't doing well and what causes you to wipe. Identify key issues and discuss it with the group, discuss how the group can work around them, then practice incorporating those changes in your runs.

    Being comfortable with the fight mechanics is the most important thing. Not everything is hard in those fights, there are key mechanics/phases/transitions that causes most group to wipe.



    Titan Ex:
    - are people dodging consistently?
    - are tanks swapping smoothly?
    - do people stack correctly?
    - do people bait Landslide correctly?
    - do tanks mitigate MB properly?
    - do adds get killed close to each other and at about the same time?

    T5:
    - is the group consistent at mitigating fireballs? killing conflags in time?
    - is the group consistent at dodging divebombs? killing the Snakes?
    - is the group consistent at dodging twisters? killing dreadknight?
    - is the MT mitigating DS properly? do healers cast Stoneskin + Adlo for preventive mitigation?
    - are DPS saving their cooldowns for key DPS checks?

    These example of thing your group needs to assess and work together on fixing. A lot of it will come through experience and practice but it's really important to identify your issues and find the best way for your group.
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    Shinkyo covered everything there. If the rest of your group is as geared as you are I imagine you are having one of two issues.

    1. Managing and executing mechanics as shinkyo pointed out.

    2. If you are failing DPS checks (heart phase/superbombs or conflags/snakes) you need to have your group evaluate their rotations and how they're are using cool down throughout the fight.

    If you are concerned about your own DPS I highly recommend the Dragoon: A rotation Reborn thread in this forum.
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    Yeah, it had been a while since I looked and now it's updated with stat weights, which helps me with making gearing decisions.

    For me, it was just a matter of personal interest of pushing my own DPS as best as it can get for the circumstances I have. I'm in an awkward phase when it comes to gearing and wanted to see if I could push out a little more performance while my group pushes to get past the bottle necks.

    I diddn't want to really get into the details of mechanical issues into each fights so much as explain my circumstances, but I don't mind sharing.

    Right now, with Titan, the problem really is evading. We have members who, are compensating for graphical issues and lag. (PS3 and low-end computer/ISP users.)

    The real issue for both these fights comes from the zero-forgiveness mechanics in the fights. There's no coming back from falling of the edge with Titan, and a bad Divebomb can wipe an entire party for Twin due to hitting the edge. We can compensate for the lag and graphical issues, but it makes the process of doing so very slow.
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    For T5 make sure your group has enough accuracy. Starting to see a bunch of overgeared groups not meeting DPS checks because they got all new Sol gear and only have 400 acc.
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    I cleared both fights with ps3 initially. Make sure you're party members are relieving there system of all unnecessary loads. A wired connection will also improve things.

    -Turn off flying text
    - Turn everything on your HUD you don't need off. (On DRG with titan I only had my hot bar, chat box and LB visible).
    - Turn off party member health and names.
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