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    Huntington's Avatar
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    Just had a pretty entertaining Pharos run.

    Here's to hoping that Scholar in the party sees this.

    So we start, I had Titan out because I was doing FATEs, and I had a nagging feeling that I didn't trust the Warrior I had to guard me proficiently when I go all out Summoner DPS, they had 8,800 HP without food it seemed, so clearly well geared and should be able to hold aggro fine. Yet I had a feeling. So I tell them I'm leaving him out until I feel assured that some random add isn't going to rush my way and cleave me when I'm Bane'ing and so on. They all laugh and freak out about a tank pet being out instead of Garuda, I don't much care.


    They learn to deal with it and the run of Pharos proceeds, and just like a self-fulfilling prophecy, the WAR did not tell the SCH they were going to pull everything in the first area, they pop Vengeance before they have even two adds so their most powerful damage resistance cooldown just got wasted before there was more than two enemies, healer wasn't ready, Tank dies, Titan helps save the day. I for sure leave him out now if communicating is so difficult for them.

    Along the way, the WAR is trying to go through it as fast as possible, often leaving adds alone and not holding them to run to the next group when enmity is shifting towards DPS or when we're before a boss, even running a half health Screamer before the Zu into the room with them and ignoring it once the fight starts. I have Titan at this point constantly picking up anything they leave behind, and he holds aggro pretty well given my gear at this point. Later on, the WAR even got the bright idea to drop Defiance and let Titan tank, and it worked well, if the SCH decided to heal it at all.

    Once we finally get to Siren, we're getting adds running all over the place because the WAR is still ignoring anything that isn't a boss, and with 5 zombies running around at once, it's difficult to micro-manage Titan and do DPS at the same time because they're getting lazy with it. Siren nonetheless drops quickly because me and the DRG and WAR I have to admit are geared adamantly.

    At the end, WAR complains about low DPS like we didn't just blow through Pharos in about 25 to 35 minutes, which seems decent to me with a PUG group.

    But here's the kicker for me. A geared tank, a Warrior nonetheless, not in tank stance, will do great DPS for a Tank class, better than Titan Egi could ever hope to do. So a thought occurred to me, why are they complaining about low DPS, when we could have Titan tank everything, they drop Defiance, and it's like we have an extra DPS on the field? They could be doing great damage without whining about "low DPS", and I actually get to use a pet effectively that gets seldom used in the end.

    In essence if I manage him well enough, it's full-proof if the healer can heal appropriately. So why was this such a hard thing to grasp for anyone?
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    Last edited by Huntington; 04-27-2014 at 03:02 PM.

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    Hjarta I'kastala
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    I give you maaaaajor props for putting things to use in the end-game that are outside the realm of typical "this is 100% what you need to do no questions asked" thinking. I wish your party had been more receptive to that kind of gameplay. My biggest in-instance pet peeve is a total lack of communication right from the start, so I totally feel you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    I give you maaaaajor props for putting things to use in the end-game that are outside the realm of typical "this is 100% what you need to do no questions asked" thinking. I wish your party had been more receptive to that kind of gameplay. My biggest in-instance pet peeve is a total lack of communication right from the start, so I totally feel you.
    I appreciate you saying that. It really could work well and even do better than a Summoner's pet easily in the end, so I fathom why it wouldn't be something cool to try out if it works effectively.
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    Completing Pharos in 25 minutes alone is a an accomplishment. Even with the nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    Completing Pharos in 25 minutes alone is a an accomplishment. Even with the nerf.
    I could be slightly off, didn't look at the clock more than a few times, I'll say 25-35 minutes to be more accurate. Should definitely be in that range.
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    I'll say this as a scholar..... Generally I don't heal pets if there's a tank in the party. I'm just saying.
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    Last edited by Zer0mr; 05-01-2014 at 06:01 AM.

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    Titan from the start "for emergency"? wtf..
    Yeah, why not say at the start: "Tank, i guess you are bad"
    Btw, do you not have swiftcast.....?

    Wonder how ppl would react if i kept off Defiance on purpose and go on str-gear.
    "DPS you are well equipped, but i have a feeling you s*ck..."

    Not defending that WAR, it is your attitude in question here.

    On Vengeance:
    Vengeance is not only a damage resistance Cooldown, but a auto retaliation, meaning he will hit back automatically every mob that hits him, and it does add a stack of wrath. Not so bad on the pull at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
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    If I wanted to say that I think he might not be the best I probably could have, the SCH was the only one that spoke understandable English anyways.
    What makes you think I don't? It's often in the rotation to use Swiftcast for Shadow Flare, sometimes I might not have it.

    There are plans that say a WAR should gear for STR sometimes anyways.

    I'm well aware of what Vengeance does I have a WAR myself, using it with two adds though then having it run out when the bulk of them are attacking you though is bad planning and usage.
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    Maybe I should queue as a dps (blm) and run around using Physick, because I don't trust the pug healer xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Maybe I should queue as a dps (blm) and run around using Physick, because I don't trust the pug healer xD
    tee hee zomgs so funnys oh wows
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