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  1. #21
    Player kidvideo's Avatar
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    Ember Rage
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Yeesh... I loved my dark knight in ffxi, but I would not look forward to that 100 kills again with a greatsword's delay.
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  2. #22
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    Bloodclaw's Avatar
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    Bloodclaw Talon
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 100
    The Dark Knight honestly defined the first melee glass cannon in video games. I don't see them being a tank any time soon.
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  3. #23
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I see DRK as more of tank hybrid similar to the WAR. While I do see DRK being a possible dps I think that doesn't qualify in FFXIV. I mean our "Paladin" is really a "Knight" and not the traditional standard that all Paladins are supposed to be. I honestly prefer DRK to be a tank as it will add some more variety to the tank class and will help to alleviate some of the tank shortage issues. Do you really want more dps and longer que times? The DRK class is very popular so why not put it where it can do some good and get more people playing tanks.
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  4. #24
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    Varenian Xemura
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    I see DRK as more of tank hybrid similar to the WAR. While I do see DRK being a possible dps I think that doesn't qualify in FFXIV. I mean our "Paladin" is really a "Knight" and not the traditional standard that all Paladins are supposed to be. I honestly prefer DRK to be a tank as it will add some more variety to the tank class and will help to alleviate some of the tank shortage issues. Do you really want more dps and longer que times? The DRK class is very popular so why not put it where it can do some good and get more people playing tanks.
    It will only get more people playing tanks until they realize "Oh hey, I actually DO have to tank" and then they go back to a damage dealing job again.
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  5. #25
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    Nira Muzyka
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Saziel View Post
    It will only get more people playing tanks until they realize "Oh hey, I actually DO have to tank" and then they go back to a damage dealing job again.
    This.

    I'm all for adding a new tank class for the sake of adding variety, but adding it with the hopes that you'll actually get people to tank that normally wouldn't is not why it should be added.
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  6. #26
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    Bloodclaw Talon
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    I see DRK as more of tank hybrid similar to the WAR. While I do see DRK being a possible dps I think that doesn't qualify in FFXIV. I mean our "Paladin" is really a "Knight" and not the traditional standard that all Paladins are supposed to be. I honestly prefer DRK to be a tank as it will add some more variety to the tank class and will help to alleviate some of the tank shortage issues. Do you really want more dps and longer que times? The DRK class is very popular so why not put it where it can do some good and get more people playing tanks.
    By that logic lets make teh Ninja a tank! Yay! and lets make the Summoner a DoT DPS class! Yay.... oh wait.
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  7. #27
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    Kelg Granthal
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Yoshi said somewhere that he wanted DRK to come from GLD. I'd imagine they would give a DPS based combo finisher to Riot blade, that increases damage dealt by 20% or something, and then make a bunch of HP sacrificing attacks. Subs would be LNC for sure, and then either Archer or PUG or maybe even MRD(with berserk as a cross class skill?). I think it would need a lot of work to make DRK come from GLD though.. they have too many tanking abilities.

    If they could change GLD abilities to have different effects when classified as a DPS it could work. For example, Rampart could change from 20% defense boost to +20% crit boost, and Rage of Halone could change from increased enmity to some kind of damage over time effect, or slashing resistance down.
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  8. #28
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    Bloodclaw Talon
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    Yoshi said somewhere that he wanted DRK to come from GLD. I'd imagine they would give a DPS based combo finisher to Riot blade, that increases damage dealt by 20% or something, and then make a bunch of HP sacrificing attacks. Subs would be LNC for sure, and then either Archer or PUG or maybe even MRD(with berserk as a cross class skill?). I think it would need a lot of work to make DRK come from GLD though.. they have too many tanking abilities.

    If they could change GLD abilities to have different effects when classified as a DPS it could work. For example, Rampart could change from 20% defense boost to +20% crit boost, and Rage of Halone could change from increased enmity to some kind of damage over time effect, or slashing resistance down.
    It will defiantly be Thaumaturge as the unlocking class, but as for the 2nd job to get cross-class from, could be lancer or marauder; or both as they could add a 3rd class to draw from cross-class abilities from.
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    Last edited by Bloodclaw; 05-01-2014 at 11:43 AM.

  9. #29
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    Zero Rains
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Dark Knight Tank Only, Screw DPS, its to bland and boring for that.
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  10. #30
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    Mal Shadowbeard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Yeah, I'm looking forward to Dark Knight like everyone else - and it seems that gladiator and thaumaturge would make sense for cross class.
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