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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    I can see it now. The "OMG you expanded on a terrible system, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU SE?" Now I have to grind for days on end again!?!? I quit! All because they added an option.
    The problem is not to add an option. It's to expand a mechanic.

    RNG is a bad system, because it doesn't reward you according to your effort. If we don't react, they'll use this for more and more content. We'll see dungeons without loot or primal fight without primal weapons at the end, etc...
    You want to make us farm Atma ? Fine, give us the Atma when we win (Gold Medals) 10 different FATEs on the proper zone. It will be fair, and actually it doesn't require anymore skill than plain farming the same FATEs over and over.

    And if you want to add a little more challenge, make the medal count only for lvl40+ FATEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    The problem is not to add an option. It's to expand a mechanic.

    RNG is a bad system, because it doesn't reward you according to your effort. If we don't react, they'll use this for more and more content. We'll see dungeons without loot or primal fight without primal weapons at the end, etc...
    You want to make us farm Atma ? Fine, give us the Atma when we win (Gold Medals) 10 different FATEs on the proper zone. It will be fair, and actually it doesn't require anymore skill than plain farming the same FATEs over and over.

    And if you want to add a little more challenge, make the medal count only for lvl40+ FATEs.
    RNG isn't going anywhere, this is a MMORPG. Atma is nothing more then mindless grind, if that is what someone wants they can do that. Lvl 40 fates aren't any more challenging then lvl 10 fates, none of them pose much of a challenge. The point is nobody is forced or would need to do it, but it adds a side option to those that do want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But MMO's use RNG for a reason. That reason is rather simple. People will play the game more if there is a random chance of getting something. They'll do the same thing over and over again just for the attempt to get something they want. Not the case when it's not RNG.

    So, RNG is there for a real psychological reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alavastre View Post
    Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But MMO's use RNG for a reason. That reason is rather simple. People will play the game more if there is a random chance of getting something. They'll do the same thing over and over again just for the attempt to get something they want. Not the case when it's not RNG.

    So, RNG is there for a real psychological reason.
    Not really. People will play as long as they have something to seek. RNG is just the easiest way to make sure that it will take a long time and fooling people so that they'll hope to be lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Not really. People will play as long as they have something to seek. RNG is just the easiest way to make sure that it will take a long time and fooling people so that they'll hope to be lucky.
    It's been studied. Go check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alavastre View Post
    Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But MMO's use RNG for a reason. That reason is rather simple. People will play the game more if there is a random chance of getting something.
    Ever heard of Runescape and Minecraft?

    RNG exists as a barrier to deny items, gears, weapons, etc and force people to try again. Like gambling but less fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Like gambling but less fun.
    Indeed, that's why D&D never became popular.
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