Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Garlyle]

There are other things but it won't give any meaningful loot.
People don't care about content, they care about access to the best gear.
And that's the gist of it.

Yup. And if that's all you're interested in, well, adding another method to get 'best' gear would ultimately just result in "well now I'm done everything NOW WHAT SE" even faster.

This isn't to say the game couldn't benefit from more content; especially content with spontaneity/nonlinear generation that would greatly increase the amount of people's interest in replaying it. But there would always be a set of players only interested in "does it have the best gear in the game at the end of it".

[Bellybell]

There are other things but it won't give any meaningful loot.
People don't care about content, they care about access to the best gear.
And that's the gist of it.

it'd be good if the game has something to look forward to aside from getting certain piece of gears then be done with it

[Ooshima]

There are other things but it won't give any meaningful loot.
People don't care about content, they care about access to the best gear.
And that's the gist of it.

What content is there really thou. Not everything interests me, same goes to others.

I would love to run some of the lower dungeons like Brayflox for those green icon gears for vanity, but no matter I queu as tank/healer/DPS, the wait time is pretty ridiculous cos no one plays them. I'd wish I could bring my retainer in as AI lol.

[Geobryn]

I'd wish I could bring my retainer in as AI lol.

not just the retainer ... the chocobo too, now thats 4 players slots filled up :P

[Garlyle]

I would love to run some of the lower dungeons like Brayflox for those green icon gears for vanity, but no matter I queu as tank/healer/DPS, the wait time is pretty ridiculous cos no one plays them. I'd wish I could bring my retainer in as AI lol.

Even if not for dungeons, I would love to have Retainers be able to join us in battle as companions in a pinch. Especially now that we can gear them.

[Dreamer]

Retainers are business people, not soldiers. Our chocobo companions on the other hand....

[Ooshima]

Even if not for dungeons, I would love to have Retainers be able to join us in battle as companions in a pinch. Especially now that we can gear them.

Yeah.. I'd love to bring them around to kill some mobs for funsies.. I means some of the story quest, job quest, or even FATEs we have NPC tanks and healers, I'm sure our retainers can do the same

Retainers are business people, not soldiers. Our chocobo companions on the other hand....

We have ventures don't we? They go around killing Mogs and bring you mog weapons and other dungeon gears (heck, they were the REAL world first T9 kill, and solo kill, because they brought back White Raven Fragment before BG got their kill ), goes hunting and bring you back monster meet and stuff for your cooking, steal furniture from other people houses. Just that you need to pay them in venture coins. That's like being a mercenary. I don't mind bringing them out for some fights and pay them ventures thou.

[Yurihyuga]

the problem also is lockouts forcing you to static and depending on those people to be on. Coil isn't big enough to have lockouts to be honest and now all you have is a split community - people who have a static and people can't join friends cause there locked out it is a load of nonsense and needs to stop.

Lockouts is to disguise the fact that there is a lack of real variety end game. Trials and coil just does not cut it and crystal tower was a joke from day 1 tbh for the current players of the time and beyond. What the game desperately needs is more raid variety and fast to avoid needing lockouts to prevent people from progressing too fast.

End game in FFXI even with just sky hell had more than coil there was no lockouts could do sky everyday if you wanted and it never got old for a lot of people. If you weren't after gear money drops were split.
Then you had Dynamis again if you weren't after gear currency was split after even break.
Then there was sea with an unbeatable last boss however do believe it was beaten eventually.

They were huge but then we have coil just bosses with mechanics with lockouts and purely gear can't run it for anything else.
There does need to be more, otherwise people will slowly start cancelling subs and then this will be labelled the game with promise but failed.
Hell there has already been people cancelling just because they gave up trying to find a static or there static broke and couldn't be bothered to go through the progress again - what about these people SE? do you care about them? or are you that desperate to prolong the content that they are worthwhile losses in the long run?

Your lockouts have been causing hell since it started and now it starts all over again.

[Ferth]

I dunno about coil not providing the best gear. But 4 man dungeons dropping gear 30-55 Ilvls lower than current top tier is certainly asinine.

[Garlyle]

I dunno about coil not providing the best gear. But 4 man dungeons dropping gear 30-55 Ilvls lower than current top tier is certainly asinine.

Not really. There needs to be an actual progression, and the gear drops help cover it while players build up the Myth/Tomes from various content that will eventually replace those.

It does, however, suck that this makes most 4-mans (and future 4-mans at the current progression rate) are more or less irrelevant to players who've already been around for a while. Anyone who was already in full Allagan/Myth gear when 2.2 hit has far less to gain than a new player, and while there needs to continue to be content to fill that gap for newer players... yeah.