the new tank mounts

[bokchoykn]

Just curious if I'm the only very upset tank about this?

I think the purpose was to encourage experienced tanks to participate in more 8-man activity, especially in PF and DF. If it was available to 4-mans, it wouldn't fulfill its purpose.

Besides, what's wrong with having certain rewards exclusive to certain achievements?

• I don't want to level my classes to 50. I don't get a Paragon's Crown.
  
• I don't want to go back in time and play 1.0. I don't get a Goobbue.
  
• I don't want to do dailies. I don't get a Bomb thingy.
  
• You don't want to do 8-man content. You don't get a Lion.

Want the reward? Do what's required to get it. Don't want to do it? Make peace with the fact that you won't get the reward. Just like anything else in this game.

[Traek]

As I said before, the devs obviously didn't design the tank achieves with short term acquisition in mind . If you've got 40/200, you're on a pretty decent track since you're liable to have it within a few more months. I bet *that* is the rate the devs expect and most likely want to see. They don't want to encourage people to tank in the short term; they want to encourage people to tank over the long term.

Ya, possibly. I'm not too worried, I do all the said content on tank most times. I think you guys with your mounts already are pretty nuts. Just been too busy with all the content to farm up things that give credit. Most my wins are probably from getting our FC peeps T5/Levi wins + Farming + practice. Lol Pretty soon Echo buff is going to be at 25%, and I can't imagine how /faceroll T4 will be with that.

Besides, what's wrong with having certain rewards exclusive to certain achievements?

• I don't want to level my classes to 50. I don't get a Paragon's Crown.
  
• I don't want to go back in time and play 1.0. I don't get a Goobbue.
  
• I don't want to do dailies. I don't get a Bomb thingy.
  
• You don't want to do 8-man content. You don't get a Lion.

Want the reward? Do what's required to get it. Don't want to do it? Make peace with the fact that you won't get the reward. Just like anything else in this game.

As a note, I'm playing a little devils advocate here. I'm in the middle on this issue tbh, but you bring up valid points. I think most people are frustrated because 'rewarding tanks' means different things to different people. Yoshi-P said he was wanting to reward people currently playing as tanks, as a "thank you". Being as none of the achievement is retroactive (Reinheart sort of clarifies this) it comes off bad to 'career tanks'. In other words, it isn't what was implied to tanks looking forward to the mount. Here is the Letter from the Producer LIVE where it was answered as such. I believe there was more scattered about, but essentially what people thought.

Now if they had come out and said, "We want all tanks to go out and tank, and earn their mount through many trials" etc. etc. then we'd come to expect our current system as is. There would be griping like there always is, but most of us could say, *this is what they intended from the start* or as you are saying Bokchoy, its an achievement, go earn it.

[bokchoykn]

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This isn't what the OP is complaining about. The OP wants the mount but does not want to do 8-man content. He thinks the mount should be obtainable through 4-man content. You're arguing for something different. You want the achievement to be applied retroactively.

I would've liked the Bear and Lion mount progress to be applied retroactively too, but it wasn't. I could honestly see why. They were trying to encourage tanks to be more active and reward them for doing it. If they rewarded everyone for past progress, the plan would be less effective.

Yoshi-P says a lot of things, some of which I don't always take at face value. He's answering questions on the spot in an interview, not given the opportunity to consult with his team. People analyze and dissect his words and take things out of context, and then get upset when the game contradicts what he said.

Ehhhh, the lack of tanks is more prominent pre-endgame from my experience

Probably, but I guess they didn't want this trend to continue into end-game.

[Traek]

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Eh, I've said before I'd be interested in seeing a mix of things. Making 200 just in specific 8-man is just a grind to most at this point. As said above, most of us career tanks have farmed that content to death for ourselves/others. They really should have just split it up more, say 50 old 8-man, 50 new 8-man 100 dungeons, or something of the sort just for sake of numbers being thrown out.

While it might help slightly on the tanking problem, most career tanks are going to continue tanking either way. That is why they are a career tank. If someone has 200 wins in 8-man content tanking already, I truly doubt they are asked to come as much else. Lol

I can sympathize with what you are saying toward Yoshi-P's words. However, I disagree he doesn't have time to consult his team, or plan out his responses. That is the whole point of his interviews, and pre-selected questions. Not only that, he has constant feedback on the pulse of what his players are feeling/questioning, and is very careful to broach each subject. He knows what he is saying, its his job. You don't give him enough credit if you think otherwise. There isn't much to dissect in what I linked anyways, it is pretty black and white what he said. Whether he meant what was implied is debatable of course, but that is the point entirely. People were disappointed, and that is why this conversation crops up most of the time.

[givemeraptors]

I think the purpose was to encourage experienced tanks to participate in more 8-man activity, especially in PF and DF.

Ehhhh, the lack of tanks is more prominent pre-endgame from my experience.*

*Before the mount rewards. To be clear.

[KingOfAbyss]

Ehhhh, the lack of tanks is more prominent pre-endgame from my experience.*

*Before the mount rewards. To be clear.

Move to Gilgamesh: our FC has now 6 Tanks, that are fighting among themselves to MT or OT coil/Exes to get that mount (and gear up ^^)