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  1. #91
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.

    I usually say Hi~ before a dungeon begins and start a bit of chit chat sometimes, try to make a relaxed environment. Then had someone being a jerk to me and from that point I stopped bothering saying hi or being chit chatty until I see what kind of players I group with. This happened for a few dungeons after that and slowly being back to my usual self fortunately. This was you could say my defensive mechanism. Now I'm back to my normal but still alert to the kind of players I have the misfortune to group with. I've also become more aggressive now when I encounter jerks.

    This could possibly be a reason why they react aggressive or rude. While I understand not everyone trying to help is being a jerk to them, they cannot translate the type of emotion trying to convey through only text. Text can get easily misinterpreted.
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  2. #92
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    Rumi Pachouli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.
    Not my problem.

    If I'm helping someone out, they need to receive it. I'm not going to pamper someone to make sure their past video game traumas are considered. Get out the fire. Dodge the thing.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.
    I don't care. If they are rude to me when I am trying to be nice, they're scum and not worth my time.

    Dealing with 100 assholes doesn't give you an excuse to be one.
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  4. #94
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    I don't care. If they are rude to me when I am trying to be nice, they're scum and not worth my time.

    Dealing with 100 assholes doesn't give you an excuse to be one.

    Yeah, it is not justified. Generalizing people is never fair. Judging people before knowing them is wrong. It's like a vicious cycle. People are jerks to usually nice people and these become jerks back to everyone thinking they are attacking them in some way. Unfortunately it's human nature it seems. :/
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumiP View Post
    Not my problem.

    If I'm helping someone out, they need to receive it. I'm not going to pamper someone to make sure their past video game traumas are considered. Get out the fire. Dodge the thing.
    You sound like an awesome teacher. Video games are serious business.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    You sound like an awesome teacher.
    I could probably give you some pointers, sure.
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  7. #97
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    yeah every battle in FFXIV is predictable from start to end u know what will happen (some 2.2 bosses are a step in the right direction with some random skills , like T6 or leviathan dash u know its coming but dont know from where)

    once u know every step of a fight and where to go /kill, its easy (other than random mistakes of course :P)
    Meh Levi still has strict dps checks that I don't like. If a dd falls, or dies during spumes, chances are it's a wipe. I'm really enjoying the echo buff in T5 currently. I like it because dbs and dps check isn't as crucial to success anymore. I'm able to bring one or two new players that might not be as skilled (or new) into the fight and can still win it. I think that's more enjoyable than having a set static that can do it only. I've beaten it pre-echo buff as well but it's just more fun when you can experience it with more players.
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  8. #98
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    Aaron Tee
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    I like to help people but then again you can only do so much. If you want to answer the question of why people
    act snobby or elitist, let me try to answer your question as simply as possible.

    "Its not their resonsibility to keep people interested in the game, that is the developers job."
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    "Time" Some people don't have enough of it.
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  9. #99
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    Shae'ah Solaris
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    I help people when I can, I'm British. . . . it's what we do
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    I commend your effort with language!

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  11. #100
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    I try to help people the best I can, but it rarely gets any better....

    You can't just blame the players though, blame SE and the MMORPG genre in general too, cause all fights are built so that you have to research every fight before doing them... unless the content is new and nobody have done it yet. You can't blame people for not wanting to take over an hour doing Titan EX because you have to explain every single detail of the fight.

    The reason a lot of players are impatient with noobs, is because they haven't watched/read these guides on the fight, or they just haven't learnt enough from them.

    I could do Titan EX on my first try after watching a vid of it. It wasn't perfect the first 2-3 tries (DF), but I didn't do much faults either and I didn't die outside of wipes which is the important thing. After that I haven't had any problems with the fight at all. So I know it's possible to learn the fight quickly, which makes it a little harder to be patient at times....
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