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    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.

    I usually say Hi~ before a dungeon begins and start a bit of chit chat sometimes, try to make a relaxed environment. Then had someone being a jerk to me and from that point I stopped bothering saying hi or being chit chatty until I see what kind of players I group with. This happened for a few dungeons after that and slowly being back to my usual self fortunately. This was you could say my defensive mechanism. Now I'm back to my normal but still alert to the kind of players I have the misfortune to group with. I've also become more aggressive now when I encounter jerks.

    This could possibly be a reason why they react aggressive or rude. While I understand not everyone trying to help is being a jerk to them, they cannot translate the type of emotion trying to convey through only text. Text can get easily misinterpreted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.
    Not my problem.

    If I'm helping someone out, they need to receive it. I'm not going to pamper someone to make sure their past video game traumas are considered. Get out the fire. Dodge the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumiP View Post
    Not my problem.

    If I'm helping someone out, they need to receive it. I'm not going to pamper someone to make sure their past video game traumas are considered. Get out the fire. Dodge the thing.
    You sound like an awesome teacher. Video games are serious business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    You sound like an awesome teacher.
    I could probably give you some pointers, sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.
    I don't care. If they are rude to me when I am trying to be nice, they're scum and not worth my time.

    Dealing with 100 assholes doesn't give you an excuse to be one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    I don't care. If they are rude to me when I am trying to be nice, they're scum and not worth my time.

    Dealing with 100 assholes doesn't give you an excuse to be one.

    Yeah, it is not justified. Generalizing people is never fair. Judging people before knowing them is wrong. It's like a vicious cycle. People are jerks to usually nice people and these become jerks back to everyone thinking they are attacking them in some way. Unfortunately it's human nature it seems. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Do you guys ever wonder that maybe most of those "Don't tell me what to do" players could just be over defensive because jerk players have bashed them before? It gives a negative stigma around "experienced players". It's like someone mentioned, poking an open wound. It's a defensive mechanism.

    This could possibly be a reason why they react aggressive or rude. While I understand not everyone trying to help is being a jerk to them, they cannot translate the type of emotion trying to convey through only text. Text can get easily misinterpreted.
    I'm actually engaged in a back-and-forth thread about this already. I understand that it gets old, but if you let it get to you to the point where it overwrites the way you play the game, you're indirectly contributing to the issue. No one really wants to hear that, of course. Its the same as when you work a customer service job and you're tired of people yelling at you, so you either unconsciously take it out on other customers or don't give the next customer your best. It happens. It happens more on the internet.

    Unfortunately, its something that you're gonna run into, especially on the internet.

    Equally unfortunately, you can go through most of the game content blind and maybe wipe once or twice if you're reeeeaaaallllly not paying attention. The game later switches gears on you entirely, as someone said already; positioning becomes such a huge factor, alongside DPS checks everywhere and instant-kill mechanics. Anything that would have been considered a warmup type of content was probably optional.

    Yes, "watch a video" may not give you everything you need (works for me, maybe not for you) but it is much better than going in completely blind and is less likely to make everyone mad at you and disconnect. At least know things that are going to happen, and if nothing else, be aware of things that will kill you right out the gate, or when you need to kill something ASAP.

    A lot of content later on will make it obvious who is completely blind vs who has the concept down. Personally, I find it EXTREMELY irritating when someone jumps into content blind because they won't even mention it until you've wiped (sometimes multiple times) or they've done something detrimental to the group and gotten called out on it (killed spiny), and at that point, everyone's quitting.

    Yes, a lot people also don't want to deal with newbies to content, but trying to hide it (and getting exposed) is just going to make people more irritable.
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    Last edited by i2agnarok; 04-30-2014 at 04:24 AM. Reason: typos