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    Quote Originally Posted by Raenryong View Post
    Because DPS sitting around unable to act in fear of an arbitrary un-obvious mechanic is extremely poor game design. Just like if a fight required healers to just go afk for a period of time or risk causing an instant wipe.
    Are we talking about the levi fight anymore, or are you talking out of your rear?

    The point is to do the bubbles and not go and hit levi at the same time, much like how ifrit, you do the nails instead of hitting ifrit at the same time.

    There is no point dps is afk, only choosing the proper targets.

    Some people are really start to talk out their rear in what exactly the issue.
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    Serefina Solfyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Are we talking about the levi fight anymore, or are you talking out of your rear?

    The point is to do the bubbles and not go and hit levi at the same time, much like how ifrit, you do the nails instead of hitting ifrit at the same time.

    There is no point dps is afk, only choosing the proper targets.

    Some people are really start to talk out their rear in what exactly the issue.
    If your DPS is high enough, you'll push it anyway. Are you talking out of your rear, or is your dps simply lacking?

    Even more to make your self look like an idiot: yes, you can know exactly when you reached 20% with a visual indicator. Both mercy stroke and misery's end activate at 20% (and for your information, you don't wipe at 20% because I'm able to actually use those moves). Most of this is just people in your group attacking the boss instead of spumes when they appear anyway. It's fixable by doing the fight properly.
    Not if your DPS is good. Granted most people in this game are abhorrent at DPS. Also Misery's End and Mercy Stroke are not available to all DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raenryong View Post
    If your DPS is high enough, you'll push it anyway. Are you talking out of your rear, or is your dps simply lacking?



    Not if your DPS is good. Granted most people in this game are abhorrent at DPS. Also Misery's End and Mercy Stroke are not available to all DPS.
    Mercy stroke is available to all melee and tanks, misery's end is available to archer. Yes, SE's intention is to prevent parties of all casters. Do you have a problem (regardless, both tanks have it so you make yourself look like an idiot)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Mercy stroke is available to all melee and tanks, misery's end is available to archer. Yes, SE's intention is to prevent parties of all casters. Do you have a problem (regardless, both tanks have it so you make yourself look like an idiot)?
    My problem is that all DPS do not have access to the information required to moderate their DPS. As I stated earlier, if you stop DPS only when the 20% thing lights up, there is a good chance that remaining DoTs etc will push it over the edge.

    Having to rely on tanks for the information required to dps is poor design in this instance. To use an illustrative example, it would be like if a mechanic similar to Briny Mirror had information about it which was only displayed to two DPS or similar, so the healers had to rely on these DPS to tell them when to stop healing (or they'll wipe the raid instantly, in this example) - and god forbid they have Regen or Whispering Dawn running...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raenryong View Post
    My problem is that all DPS do not have access to the information required to moderate their DPS. As I stated earlier, if you stop DPS only when the 20% thing lights up, there is a good chance that remaining DoTs etc will push it over the edge.

    Having to rely on tanks for the information required to dps is poor design in this instance. To use an illustrative example, it would be like if a mechanic similar to Briny Mirror had information about it which was only displayed to two DPS or similar, so the healers had to rely on these DPS to tell them when to stop healing (or they'll wipe the raid instantly, in this example) - and god forbid they have Regen or Whispering Dawn running...
    Oh dear god cooperation in a party! Again doesn't matter, only casters (which SE intentionally is making players avoid all caster parties) don't have access to these skills. Try using some of those other cross class skills other than the cookie cutter ones and find unique uses for them. But wtf, you're a bard and are complaining...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Oh dear god cooperation in a party! Again doesn't matter, only casters (which SE intentionally is making players avoid all caster parties) don't have access to these skills. Try using some of those other cross class skills other than the cookie cutter ones and find unique uses for them. But wtf, you're a bard and are complaining...
    I'm complaining because it's poor design, not because it's difficult.
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