Leviathan's Wipe at 20%?

[wizzed]

Anyone encountered the absolute wipe where you DPS too quickly and Levi just wipes you regardless of whether you activated the converter or not?

It has happened to me 3 times today and apparently you can't get levi below 20% before he changes phase to the last phase. If you force his hp to below 20%, he'll do a wipe to the team.

I thought it was just a bad bug, but after testing it several times it is more or less confirmed that it will wipe you at 20% if you dps too quickly.

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has been encountering this. It's kinda sad that this kinda checks are in place, another one was with Ifrit EX, DPS too fast, he wipes you with Hellfire.

[Decrith]

It's similar to ifrit's nail, nothing new about it. If you dps him down too fast, he'll be forced to change phases, and thus he used tidal wave before the converter is up, it happened to us when we LB3 the spumes but the BLM only hit the frontal spumes, Levi's HP was so low that it forced the transition and we wiped.

[Kitfox]

Pushing Levi too quickly before the second shield is gonna cause him to use Enrage instead of the normal Tidal Wave, and shield doesn't help against that no matter how early it's up.

[wizzed]

Pushing Levi too quickly before the second shield is gonna cause him to use Enrage instead of the normal Tidal Wave, and shield doesn't help against that no matter how early it's up.

Yup this, we pressed converter and it doesn't matter. =/

[Crimson-Falcon]

never happened to me

assuming you got crazy DPS

T8 teaching i guess

[dejavutwo]

I really think enrages like this are a poor mechanic in a game where you can't see the boss's health as a percent. If the DPS are doing well, let them do well. DPS should really only have to hold back for things like threat, T6's Blight, Spumes, or to kill an add at a specific location/time vs holding DPS to drop a boss from 23% down to 20%. The former, provides visual queues and easily identified benchmarks for when to start/stop, while the hard percentage ones require parsers to do accurately, which SE doesn't want us to use.

[Kitfox]

I really think enrages like this are a poor mechanic in a game where you can't see the boss's health as a percent. If the DPS are doing well, let them do well. DPS should really only have to hold back for things like threat, T6's Blight, Spumes, or to kill an add at a specific location/time vs holding DPS to drop a boss from 23% down to 20%. The former, provides visual queues and easily identified benchmarks for when to start/stop, while the hard percentage ones require parsers to do accurately, which SE doesn't want us to use.

Agreed. Cheap insta-wipe mechanics because you do "too well" are really lame.

[UBERHAXED]

I really think enrages like this are a poor mechanic in a game where you can't see the boss's health as a percent. If the DPS are doing well, let them do well. DPS should really only have to hold back for things like threat, T6's Blight, Spumes, or to kill an add at a specific location/time vs holding DPS to drop a boss from 23% down to 20%. The former, provides visual queues and easily identified benchmarks for when to start/stop, while the hard percentage ones require parsers to do accurately, which SE doesn't want us to use.

This isn't an example of dps doing well, this is an example of bad players. I suppose you think it's unfair to punish people who blow up ifrits nails all at the same time. It's an intended mechanic just like everything else. You just showed that you are a bad player.

[dejavutwo]

This isn't an example of dps doing well, this is an example of bad players. I suppose you think it's unfair to punish people who blow up ifrits nails all at the same time. It's an intended mechanic just like everything else. You just showed that you are a bad player.

That is the exact opposite of what I said. I explained myself further in post #17. What makes Ifrit's nails exploding and killing people a good mechanic, is that it is a visible mechanic with a clear goal and consequences. I would also point out that it pretty much identical to Leviathan X spumes, which in the quoted post I gave as an example of a good DPS control mechanic. Leviathan wiping a group at 20% is more akin to Ifrit jumping early on the last set of nails than to killing the nails.

Specific mechanics that can be seen and accounted for are good, sudden wipes with no warning are bad.

[UBERHAXED]

That is the exact opposite of what I said. I explained myself further in post #17. What makes Ifrit's nails exploding and killing people a good mechanic, is that it is a visible mechanic with a clear goal and consequences. I would also point out that it pretty much identical to Leviathan X spumes, which in the quoted post I gave as an example of a good DPS control mechanic. Leviathan wiping a group at 20% is more akin to Ifrit jumping early on the last set of nails than to killing the nails.

Specific mechanics that can be seen and accounted for are good, sudden wipes with no warning are bad.

I'm pretty sure that you suddenly wipe everything you die to a mechanic you haven't seen before (because it's a new fight). Once (or if, since you may not be that good of a player) you figure out what wiped you, then you deal with the mechanic just like every other mechanic in the game. I suppose you are going to say that twisters are unfair now?