Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Licus]

I bet if people spent more time farming and less time complaining they would get more atmas.

Every Ilvl 100 weapon is difficult to acquire. If you don't want to raid or farm levi ex, both of which will take an astounding amount of time, you have to fight RNG for an astounding amount of time to get an animus weapon.

Relic will never be the best weapon in current content anyways. You can get an equivalent weapon if you down t8.

[ApolloGenX]

They make more on a monthly subscription than on a 6 month one.

Not if the retention rate is lower on the single month subs...

[Mcshiggs]

Not if the retention rate is lower on the single month subs...

I see a few people saying they will quit, but with Yoshi out hinting about new jobs and classes, I doubt half the people that say they will quit will actually quit in the next 6 months. The reason they put out new patches every 3 months and little touch ups in between is so there is always something just around the corner, most people will wait to see if the next patch is worth staying, they have fun, then when they start to get bored and start saying they are going to quit, another patch is about to roll out, and they stay to see what it is all about. If however people quit over an optional quest, I say have fun with whatever you go do, because I for one won't miss them.

I guess I should end my post with 3 periods too that way people will think that I may have something interesting to say...

[Maplekoya]

You get more myth in upcoming patches 2.28 and 2.3. I hope all you complainers realize that will most likely save you guys much more time than adjusting Atma droprates.

I only managed to get one atma in twelve hours while my friend managed to get seven in twelve hours. Please do explain how would increasing myth save me more time compared to adjusting atma drop rates as I fail to see how.

[ApolloGenX]

I see a few people saying they will quit, but with Yoshi out hinting about new jobs and classes, I doubt half the people that say they will quit will actually quit in the next 6 months.

There's also some people that might sub for a month... play, see the new content, then cancel until the next update. It's not like a month isn't plenty to see all the stuff they add. If you don't care about staying and grinding out tokens, there's not really anything you miss out on except end game stuff, which you pick up after the next round of nerfs on the next update.

You could even just sub every other update and see everything in a month without a problem if they add stuff worth seeing.

[Mcshiggs]

There's also some people that might sub for a month... play, see the new content, then cancel until the next update. It's not like a month isn't plenty to see all the stuff they add. If you don't care about staying and grinding out tokens, there's not really anything you miss out on except end game stuff, which you pick up after the next round of nerfs on the next update.

You could even just sub every other update and see everything in a month without a problem if they add stuff worth seeing.

There is lots you could do, you could teach a monkey to juggle and ride a unicycle, right now their subscription base is growing, they have more people joining than leaving. Do you really think they will care about the 20 or 30 people that quit over this quest when they are about to release the game in China? As long as they keep making more money than they did the month before, it doesn't matter how many little "play a month take a month off" things you can think of, it's obvious that that isn't what people are doing, they are keeping their subscriptions, even if it is to just log in one day a week.

[ApolloGenX]

There is lots you could do, you could teach a monkey to juggle and ride a unicycle, right now their subscription base is growing, they have more people joining than leaving. Do you really think they will care about the 20 or 30 people that quit over this quest when they are about to release the game in China?

With the PS4 launch, I know they said they had 2 million. We can wait until things stabilize, but WoW has 8 million using a model similar to this- so there's no reason for someone to doubt that following the WoW model, they couldn't surpass 4 million... that might include month on month off- there's no reason to think that those customers aren't part of their planning - the themepark model suits those players pretty well. It wasn't a criticism. In fact, given the release intervals and nerfing of content... it seems those subscribers are a pretty important revenue consideration.

[Mcshiggs]

Not if the retention rate is lower on the single month subs...

With the PS4 launch, I know they said they had 2 million. We can wait until things stabilize, but WoW has 8 million using a model similar to this- so there's no reason for someone to doubt that following the WoW model, they couldn't surpass 4 million... that might include month on month off- there's no reason to think that those customers aren't part of their planning - the themepark model suits those players pretty well. It wasn't a criticism. In fact, given the release intervals and nerfing of content... it seems those subscribers are a pretty important revenue consideration.

I'll just go ahead and step out here, you seem to be doing a good job debating with yourself, single month subs will decrease revenues, but at the same time help double their subscriptions, yeah, I just have nothing to say about that.

[Velox]

They make more on a monthly subscription than on a 6 month one.

It's actually the same if you're using the "Entry" category for your 1 month sub (limit 1 char per world). It's only more if you do "standard."

[ApolloGenX]

I'll just go ahead and step out here, you seem to be doing a good job debating with yourself, single month subs will decrease revenues, but at the same time help double their subscriptions, yeah, I just have nothing to say about that.

No, you are missing that a 6 month sub might be more revenue during the 6 month period, while a month to month could be less revenue during the period, but still be subscribers that intermittently subscribe and produce revenue.

It's a question of maximizing revenue per subscriber, that's all.