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    i don't ever bring it up in /p but imo a healer who stands around waiting for someone to take dmg is just as bad as a blm who spams ice spells when he's at full mp, they're both not doing what they could be doing.. i'm not a dick about it but they clearly arn't trying their best
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepysheepy View Post
    i don't ever bring it up in /p but imo a healer who stands around waiting for someone to take dmg is just as bad as a blm who spams ice spells when he's at full mp, they're both not doing what they could be doing.. i'm not a dick about it but they clearly arn't trying their best
    Your comparison doesn't work. DPS are supposed to maximize their damage, spamming Blizzard is directly gimping a BLM. A healer not DPSing is not at all gimping their role of healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    Your comparison doesn't work. DPS are supposed to maximize their damage, spamming Blizzard is directly gimping a BLM. A healer not DPSing is not at all gimping their role of healing.
    Your limited perspective of encounters is so funny.
    So DPS shouldnt worry about mana song for a healer?
    or popping Virus/Eye for eye?
    because its not the role they signed up for?

    You are capable of doing damage and healing in perfect capacity.
    If you are maximizing both for the group, you are bad.

    If you don't understand the concept, you are bad.

    That is all
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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    Your comparison doesn't work. DPS are supposed to maximize their damage, spamming Blizzard is directly gimping a BLM. A healer not DPSing is not at all gimping their role of healing.
    Stop thinking of a role so narrowly. Everyone's role is to make the run be successful.

    Why is this even labeled a debate? Many times a healer can keep everyone alive while only using a percentage of their time. The remainder can be used either to DPS, or for useless unnecessary stuff. So of course you DPS then. As the difficulty of fight increases, maybe you heal more and DPS less. And then there are the cases where win or lose depends on the group's DPS: Titan Heart, fast conflag in t5, super slug in t6, etc. Healer DPS can then be the difference between win and lose (same for tank).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Your limited perspective of encounters is so funny.
    Quote Originally Posted by RhazeCain View Post
    Stop thinking of a role so narrowly. Everyone's role is to make the run be successful.
    Wow. I never realized what a close-minded person I was. I didn't say anything about whether it's appropriate for a healer to DPS or not DPS, merely that it was a bad comparison and it is.

    If you're going to use a BLM that only spams Blizzard as a point of reference than you should be comparing them to a healer that only spams Cure I.
    If you're going to make this about a healer DPSing or not DPSing and compare them to a BLM then a more appropriate point of reference would be a BLM that doesn't use Manwall, Manaward, or Aetherial Manipulation.

    Both are not necessary tools to pull off the job compentently, yet someone who truly excels at the role will use everything they have (even Surecast).

    But thanks for jumping to conclusions.
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