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  1. #11
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Think he means that the roulette bonus for needed class (usually tank, then healer, rarely DPS) will only be given if they join a party in progress.

    And for reasons someone else pointed out...

    bad, baaad idea. Desired clsses AKA Tanks mostly, fish for dungeons in progress, imagine how much that would increase as not only would you be getting final drops plus you would be getting bonuses for fishing!
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  2. #12
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    I really, REALLY tried to understand what OP meant...but I'm still lost. Someone explain it to me?
    I think it needs make sense also of your sentences after your quoted question, but I will skip them as long as I am going to answer your question.

    The scope of "bonuses" is make the tank or healer job more attractive to players, I think you will understand this.

    The problem I'd like to address, is when a tank (or healer) leave the party. Waiting a tank in a progressing duty makes the duty itself doomed, because the healer knows his waiting queue much shorter than waiting there and leaves duty too, ending with two dps in a progress duty.

    If duty was brand-new, everyone leave and requeue, but when duty is half way and dooming it at that point, wasn't the ideal situation for requeue.

    My ask for that bonus given only when the healer or tank join DF with "in progress" option, is meant to give the people who were left into duty, more chances to fill again party.

    Then, healer or tank will get their bonuses in much shorter time, because they enter in a duty whose some progress already done, and they can end duty in lesser time.
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  3. #13
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    bad, baaad idea. Desired clsses AKA Tanks mostly, fish for dungeons in progress, imagine how much that would increase as not only would you be getting final drops plus you would be getting bonuses for fishing!
    The behavior you are telling of, can be done right now.

    What is bad, aren't the tanks "fishing" in progress duties (instead, I'll be tankful to them, who let me end my duty!), but are the tanks who left in middle of duties.
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  4. #14
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    I think it needs make sense also of your sentences after your quoted question, but I will skip them as long as I am going to answer your question.

    The scope of "bonuses" is make the tank or healer job more attractive to players, I think you will understand this.

    The problem I'd like to address, is when a tank (or healer) leave the party. Waiting a tank in a progressing duty makes the duty itself doomed, because the healer knows his waiting queue much shorter than waiting there and leaves duty too, ending with two dps in a progress duty.

    ...
    Great, we both don't understand each other. This is clearly gonna go nowhere.

    What I'm trying to say is, if a tank or healer leaves the dungeon while its in progress, and they queued for bonuses, they're NOT going to get ANY bonuses anyways. The only way a tank/healer is going to get those bonuses is if they successfully complete the dungeon.
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  5. #15
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    lxSch's Avatar
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    Alex Pokute
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    Lich
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I always queue for in-progress for content where i can carry people. For content like high roulette, expert roulette and trials going in-progress means just wasting time because usually team will not pass it anyway. Also i stopped queuing for low level roulette and guildhests at all because there is no meaningful reason to do them.
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  6. #16
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    Shenandoah's Avatar
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    Yamete Oniichan
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 13
    I think what OP meant was Tanks and Healers have to tick the 'in-progress' option when queue-ing roulette to get their bonuses, regardless of whether they get into new or in-progress duty.

    I think...

    I mean, I already did this for every queue though I never get into an in-progress duty in my life, as both a tank and a healer, ever lol. But, maybe most people don't know or don't bother to tick the option.
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  7. #17
    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    That 0/4 with no one and not started happened because you'll get the 0/4 as soon as the dungeon begins since technically you aren't entering a fresh instance. The empty bit is because you must have gotten matched in and in the time between you hitting Commence and being loaded into the instance the remaining people bailed. Nothing weird about it. You also can't complain about the game not matching you into your friend's party. There was obviously more than one group waiting on a rep so you went to the group waiting the longest. Explain to me how the game is to know you want your friend's party? You would have to be offered a whole list of in progress duties and pick the one you want...
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  8. #18
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Do not want.

    As a healer I NEVER click in-progress unless I'm supposed to help ls/fc friends.

    Why? Because most of the times I did in-progress I ended up in parties where the healer left because the party was utterly hopeless with no chance of getting through the dungeon.
    It's not always possible to carry a group.
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  9. #19
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Do not want.

    As a healer I NEVER click in-progress unless I'm supposed to help ls/fc friends.

    Why? Because most of the times I did in-progress I ended up in parties where the healer left because the party was utterly hopeless with no chance of getting through the dungeon.
    It's not always possible to carry a group.
    Maybe we got different experiences but the reason i see tanks/healers leave is mostly because they don't wanna do the dungeon they got put and for some messed up reason leaving when the cutscene is still going on gives no penalty.
    I always queue up for in progress whenever i think about it (it really should save your choice SE) and more then not people have not even moved the starting area.
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  10. #20
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    Edwyn Fletcher
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    The only in progress dungeons I get are ones with no tank. We end up waiting around wasting time then just abandon anyway. Very frustrating when trying to level through dungeons.
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