Dark Knight

[Bloodclaw]

Saying there is zero disputing it when you're not actually tackling the counterargument doesn't mean that there's no disputing it. It just means that you're ignoring any counterargument because you're too married to your own idea that you can't fathom any possible contradiction.

Fine, you can needlessly troll and dispute it all you want but it is obvious to anyone that isn't blinded by ninja fanaticism that the simularities between the outfits are worlds more in common with the assassin than your presented ninja.

Complete with similar color pallet, and similarly shaped caplet. Not really a point but both characters even have over-sized ears!

Now it is my understanding that class appearances, names, and abilities do sometimes get switched, mixed, and matched between similar jobs/abilities; for example, the Red Mage and Rune Fencer frequently do this between different games. So this could be a ninja, just looking like and maybe even named assassin to better fit the European market/esthetic.

[Exstal]

Fine, you can needlessly troll and dispute it all you want but it is obvious to anyone that isn't blinded by ninja fanaticism that the simularities between the outfits are worlds more in common with the assassin than your presented ninja.

Complete with similar color pallet, and similarly shaped caplet. Not really a point but both characters even have over-sized ears!

Now it is my understanding that class appearances, names, and abilities do sometimes get switched, mixed, and matched between similar jobs/abilities; for example, the Red Mage and Rune Fencer frequently do this between different games. So this could be a ninja, just looking like and maybe even named assassin to better fit the European market/esthetic.

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Ears are because...well, she's a cat person.


Side note: Why do you call everyone who disagrees with you a troll? It's fair to call you a troll since your opinion differs from ours?

[Bloodclaw]

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Ears are because...well, she's a cat person.


Side note: Why do you call everyone who disagrees with you a troll? It's fair to call you a troll since your opinion differs from ours?

If you look closely, that is a rat tail, not fluffy or furry at all. Its a rat/humanoid race and the ears are folded up a bit due to the hat. Ears was an off comment anyway, not relevant to topic and the ninja is not relevent to the DRK comment really to this degree. So if everyone wants to discuss it, I think it need to be else where.

[IAmPotent]

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Ears are because...well, she's a cat person.


Side note: Why do you call everyone who disagrees with you a troll? It's fair to call you a troll since your opinion differs from ours?

Those ears are WAY to big to be a Miq'ote.

WAY WAY too big.

Just compare a Darklight Cowl on a Miq'ote head(or any other hood) and you can see those ears are 2-3 times longer than any Miq'ote.

Also, Miq'ote ears push against fabric causing vertical indentations, rather than folding back with the fabric.

[Rex]

Ears are because...well, she's a cat person.

She is not a cat person.....

Whether those are ears or horns, just look at her tail. it has scales! If anything she's some kind of reptilian race! A cat person!? No.

[Kitru]

Fine, you can needlessly troll and dispute it all you want

So I'm trolling because you keep getting stuff wrong and I keep correcting you? That's a remarkably strange definition of trolling given that I haven't even been partaking in a semantic debate because I'm directly tackling your arguments and point out how they're simply *wrong* by providing contradictory evidence or pointing out the weakness in your source information.

Also, I'm not a ninja fanatic. I simply know the difference between the mythologized ninja and real ninjas, and its something of an annoyance of mine when people act like their mythologized archetypes are the historical fact. If you want to use the mythologized ninja, feel free, but don't delude yourself by saying that it's historically accurate. I, honestly, wouldn't *want* to play a game with historically accurate ninjas because it wouldn't be nearly as exciting/fun as running around with insane weapons carving up hordes of enemies, but that doesn't mean that I think that video game ninjas are anything resembling the real ones.

Complete with similar color pallet, and similarly shaped caplet. Not really a point but both characters even have over-sized ears!

The only similarity is the color palette, which you seem to be monumentally hung up on. The headpiece is not similarly shaped. The Assassin has a turban like wrap; Yugiri has a hood *just like the picture that I posted*. Exstal already pointed out that the ears are a function *entirely* of race and not of class/job so it's utterly ridiculous to bring them up as evidence as to class, unless you want to claim that we'll never see any NIN except for hyur because they're the only race that ever gets to be NIN in the series.

The *only* similarity that you can actually claim is the color palette. Absolutely *everything* else is from the Ninja, not the Assassin, so, unless you seriously want to argue that color palette trumps the *everything else*, you're straight up wrong. In fact, using color palette to argue for Assassin instead of Ninja is a painfully *bad* argument because Ninja (as a job, rather than a specific character) has used *tremendously* different color palettes throughout the years and even within the same game.

In FFI and III, the Ninja was red. In FFV, each character had a different color for their ninja outfit (red, blue, black, purple, pink). In Tactics, they were either Red or Blue, based upon gender. In the Tactics Advance games, they were either purple (your side) or green (enemy).

Ninja has never *had* a consistent color palette. Hell, if you want to use the appearance of the ninja with a purple color palette (from the same games where you get Assassin), they look more like Yugiri than the Assassin does (unless you honestly believe that race is some kind of class trump card):



The skin is entirely

Now it is my understanding that class appearances, names, and abilities do sometimes get switched, mixed, and matched between similar jobs/abilities; for example, the Red Mage and Rune Fencer frequently do this between different games. So this could be a ninja, just looking like and maybe even named assassin to better fit the European market/esthetic.

The only games in which the Assassin job has showed up have been those games where Ninjas already existed. The Assassin was either an uber-ninja that players could not get (FFT; it didn't even *look* like your Assassin either), or it was the variant ninja for a different race (FFTA/2). There is no support in any FF series for Assassin existing exclusive of Ninja. The fact that *Ninja* is an iconic job of the series (and is *always* called Ninja, never Assassin) and Assassin is not pretty much means that we're not going to see Assassin as the name of the class instead of Ninja.

Rune Fencer has existed in a single game *ever* (FFXI), and it already had Red Mage, which looked exactly like the archetypal Red Mage. The whole "mystic swordsman" archetype has never been consistently portrayed as any specific job across the series, which is why it's a problematic archetype to implement in the MMO.

It's pretty obvious that you know next to nothing of the series as a whole because the cases where *iconic* classes get their abilities and appearances shifted around is the exception, not the rule. You'd also realize that Assassin is nowhere near to being iconic compared to the Ninja. At this point, I can only assume you're looking for any feasible justification to reinforce your beliefs/arguments in the face of insurmountable evidence because you've become so invested in it due to having to defend it that would be almost painful for you to admit you've been wrong the entire time.