This game lacks the experience, too casual?

[ColorOfSakura]

I don't get why people take to threads to whine about the game being "an easier version of [Insert X MMO Here]" and then talk about how they want more content like the MMO they compared XIV to.

Like...if you want an MMO with lots of content, go play one of the MMOs that has been around forever. Stop whining on the forums and find a different game. Go back to FFXI or WoW. XIV is not FFXI or WoW. It's styled to be like WoW, yes. But it's less than a year old and WoW is almost ten years old now. The content difference is going to be noticeable. Don't get on the forums and say "Why does WoW or FFXI have so much content and this game doesn't!" Again - WoW has been around for ten years. FFXI has been around longer. They've had TEN PLUS YEARS to make new content for those games. This game isn't even a year old. That's a terribly unfair comparison.

And when people say you're making a terribly unfair comparison, don't immediately jump into "Well *I'M* bored with it." Good for you, you're bored. Find another game to occupy your time then. Come back to FFXIV after an expansion or two comes out and then you'll have all the glorious content you want.

[Raxion]

This seems like a trap-thread. You could disagree with the OP and get called a "White Knight", or you could agree with them and be an idiot.

[i2agnarok]

Easier now with the 15 percent echo buff and gear becoming obsolete so fast. Spam a few coils, pow full ilvl 90. Over geared for Extremes and Levi.

Yes, easier.
Its old content.
Entirely irrelevant to the people that have moved on.
People getting i90 hasn't helped most of them get past Titan.
If they get carried, they get carried.
Making it easier to catch up doesn't do anything but let them spend less time getting from point A to B and is probably better.
The only problem its going to cause is when they catch up to everyone doing the actual current endgame, which they'll probably stay away from until it gets whatever nerf, and by then, its old content again.
Seriously. How is it "skipping" the content?

[Ceinwyn]

Well, u can argue about lv speed, i think it would be a good idea for players who enjoy it more to Level a Job instead of doing endgame Events because at the Moment this game looses These Players because ist just very unintresting to Level more than 2 Jobs because u just repeat fates and do dungeons with rnd People u dont give a shit about anyway... and gameplay was intresting,

until i hit 50, quests were intresting but now it feels like ive finished the game, maybe People enjoy doing endgame the whole day, i dont and im probably not alone, again if i want such a mmorpg expierience im better off with wow, wow got also endgame, a lifeless world with barely a Connection to anyone but it has more gameplay variety more classes, specs and real pvp,

i just dont see ffxiv getting his piece of cake, if it would be more like XI, yes, but i think i'll be hard to be very succesful with all that alternatives out there, which are probably better, however i really hope it envolves!

[Obysuca]

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Roulette gives enough myth, combined with dailies and they could even just keep spamming CM and jump right into i90, skipping over CT and even most of Coil. With how old coil is now, they could technically skip right to t5, get lucky, beat it, be right up there in t6+ now. So yeah, they can skip right over it.

Boy, you're going to have a lynch mob after you with your suggestion...

Yeah lol Everytime an idea get's suggested that involves making people work together / pay attention / put time/effort into something, or any idea that involves the basic mmo functions, such as listed above, there's always a mob :P

[Felis]

>.> No they won't lol Just by looking at how SE removed the myth cap to pretty much allow people to jump from af to full i90 proves that. All it's going to do is let new players go from i50 to whatever the new item lvl is by that time, while skipping over all the content we have now / will get by then.

Tbh, I'd prefer it if they did make new players grind through all the things we have to now. Why play a game if you're going to skip 90% of said game?

People would still enter duty roulette to get the second best tome

[Clavaat]

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1. It is very difficult to read your typing. I recommend breaking it up and proofreading a bit to prevent run-ons.

2. There are many ways to level up other jobs after your first to 50. Challenge log, FATE's, dungeons, dungeon roulette, guildhests, guildhest roulette, Hunting Log, leftover side quests. FFXI you had PTs, almost exclusively, and they were insanely time-consuming for no reason. (The reverse of this is the release of Abyssea where you could max out in a day easily)

3. If you think of it differently, iLVL is essentially your level beyond 50. As you improve your gear through BC and Mythology/Soldiery, your lvl increases. One is not necessarily a substitute for the other mind you; you still need to allocate your stats properly or you will run into trouble.

[Clavaat]

Roulette gives enough myth, combined with dailies and they could even just keep spamming CM and jump right into i90, skipping over CT and even most of Coil. With how old coil is now, they could technically skip right to t5, get lucky, beat it, be right up there in t6+ now. So yeah, they can skip right over it.

Try doing T5 in all mythology or soldiery as almost any job. You will miss like crazy, or not do enough damage. Myth gear is not a true substitute for BC gear in some cases, and vice versa. Not to mention there's the whole skill factor which only comes with time. There's no such thing as a carry through T5, everyone needs to work together properly. Even with the Echo Buff, it's still very unforgiving should you make a mistake.

[Doo]

Making it easier to catch up doesn't do anything but let them spend less time getting from point A to B and is probably better.
Seriously. How is it "skipping" the content?

When you nerf everything then it pretty makes it so players don't have to grind nearly as much as players that have been playing longer hence "skipping". So new players don't really have as much to grind through like it was suggested.

[Sisqi]

2. There are many ways to level up other jobs after your first to 50. Challenge log, FATE's, dungeons, dungeon roulette, guildhests, guildhest roulette, Hunting Log, leftover side quests. FFXI you had PTs, almost exclusively, and they were insanely time-consuming for no reason. (The reverse of this is the release of Abyssea where you could max out in a day easily)

Yeah no kidding. That's some kind of rose colored nostalgia goggles making grinding in FFXI exp parties more interesting than "u just repeat fates and do dungeons with rnd People". Leveling tends toward the grindy no matter what you're doing. I think this game has plenty of options for leveling; the fact that quests give exp is wonderful, and the Hunting Log can be a challenge if you don't cheat and look up where the mobs are.

Anyway, if you love FFXI style grinding so much, why don't you make a party finder group for that? You could go find a camp and pull mobs for hours on end. Nothing's stopping you.