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    i2agnarok's Avatar
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    Michaela Ragnaros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Get a good ls/fc to carry me. Coil has 15 percent buff, myth is free pretty much, soldiery gear easy to get. Get caught up in no time.
    Getting carried through content could happen regardless, with or without the Myth cap.
    Even if Myth was still capped, you could still be carried.
    People were carried with the cap.
    My point is that the removal of the cap isn't the sole cause of being able to skip content.
    ^__^
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    Last edited by i2agnarok; 04-25-2014 at 03:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i2agnarok View Post
    stuff
    Roulette gives enough myth, combined with dailies and they could even just keep spamming CM and jump right into i90, skipping over CT and even most of Coil. With how old coil is now, they could technically skip right to t5, get lucky, beat it, be right up there in t6+ now. So yeah, they can skip right over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artemed View Post
    Boy, you're going to have a lynch mob after you with your suggestion...
    Yeah lol Everytime an idea get's suggested that involves making people work together / pay attention / put time/effort into something, or any idea that involves the basic mmo functions, such as listed above, there's always a mob :P
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    Osric Sylador
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Roulette gives enough myth, combined with dailies and they could even just keep spamming CM and jump right into i90, skipping over CT and even most of Coil. With how old coil is now, they could technically skip right to t5, get lucky, beat it, be right up there in t6+ now. So yeah, they can skip right over it.
    Try doing T5 in all mythology or soldiery as almost any job. You will miss like crazy, or not do enough damage. Myth gear is not a true substitute for BC gear in some cases, and vice versa. Not to mention there's the whole skill factor which only comes with time. There's no such thing as a carry through T5, everyone needs to work together properly. Even with the Echo Buff, it's still very unforgiving should you make a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Roulette gives enough myth, combined with dailies and they could even just keep spamming CM and jump right into i90, skipping over CT and even most of Coil. With how old coil is now, they could technically skip right to t5, get lucky, beat it, be right up there in t6+ now. So yeah, they can skip right over it.
    Full i90 just from CM. That would take forever.
    You might as well still have the cap.
    Dude, what are the chances of that actually happening, though?
    Really, most people that haven't beaten T5 are not going to jump in DF and get carried.
    If they're getting carried, they are probably paying someone or getting carried by an FC.
    Having i90 and an Echo bonus (though once the percentage ramps up, different story) isn't going to magically get you through things.
    If your healer sucks, the tank is still going to die.
    If you're going to run conflags into teammates, you're still not going to progress.
    There are still mechanics that are going to kill you when you don't handle them properly.
    Paying 7 other people that know what they're doing while you lie down dead is going to be easier than trying to do the turn, just because you have the gear, with anything less than people that know the content when you're running mechanics into them like a headless chicken.
    Those people are going to be kicked because you're wasting their time.
    Gear is not going to carry you through T5.
    If someone is going to carry you, you would have been carried anyway.

    Why are people still complaining about Titan?
    People in i90?
    EX aside, even HM.
    Mechanics.
    If that person died, the rest of the team can carry on without them so much easier when they're not running around sabotaging things.
    Regardless of whether they have full i90 or whatever the minimum requirement is, if they were going to get carried, they'd get carried anyway.
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    Last edited by i2agnarok; 04-25-2014 at 04:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    >.> No they won't lol Just by looking at how SE removed the myth cap to pretty much allow people to jump from af to full i90 proves that. All it's going to do is let new players go from i50 to whatever the new item lvl is by that time, while skipping over all the content we have now / will get by then.

    Tbh, I'd prefer it if they did make new players grind through all the things we have to now. Why play a game if you're going to skip 90% of said game?
    People would still enter duty roulette to get the second best tome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    People would still enter duty roulette to get the second best tome
    Incoming rage, but...

    Put an item lvl cap on unlocking those tomes >.>


    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    There's no such thing as a carry through T5.
    Except you know, those T5 pts people are selling now to carry you >.>
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    a game shouldnt be end game when WoW is all about End Game. right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    a game shouldnt be end game when WoW is all about End Game. right.
    ??? i know that wow is mostly about endgame, whats ure point pls!?
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    I'll preserve ure momories for the tomorrows yet to be... come what may, i could breath my last breath and the world be crumbling into oblivion, there are ways to keep a thought alive and i know one that works for sure...

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    All MMOs are about endgame. You're not going to get much new "mid game" content because with each new addition of content what was endgame gets pushed to mid game and nerfed so the community can stay caught up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap75 View Post
    All MMOs are about endgame.
    Ok, thats right all are about endgame but what makes em different is how its splitted up, and some do a better Job in entertaining us on the road to endgame than others! ffxiv isnt doing that so bad but once ure through the main Story
    Quote Originally Posted by Gnova
    ]If a game shouldn't be "all endgame content" then FF14 has WoW beat immediately due to the main scenario questline that you at through while leveling.
    it becomes quite boring and therefore lacks durability, some things to Change this could be stuff like Group Events beside the dungeon Routine which could take place in the real world like they did it with ffxi earlier, this would come up with a stronger community and less routined gameplay and they could make crafting more rewarding so People care to actually level it!
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    I'll preserve ure momories for the tomorrows yet to be... come what may, i could breath my last breath and the world be crumbling into oblivion, there are ways to keep a thought alive and i know one that works for sure...

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