Tank mounts the good and bad

[NaliaBrown]

I've started leveling a tank because of the mount. But I also let people know that I'm still new to tanking when I enter a duty if I'm not as familiar with it. I think I'm doing ok, but I'll get better with more practice. As long as people are patient with me, we'll get through it. Of course, I also do my best to be a good tank. I don't think I'm there yet, but I hope that I'm improving.

It's disappointing that people aren't even trying. Sounds like they're treating the tank roles as DPS. This won't help them get their mount at all, as they won't last long in the high-end content.

[Harmonium]

For kick someone i do something before.

First i try talk to him, what are you doing ? use this skill (with the auto translate etc).

If he don't answer, or change how he play, or don't even try to be better. Yes i tell him i will kick you in 5 minut (or less depend how much time i need to wait for launch the vote).

Then he is kicked. I have done a amdapor (the new one) the tank was stupid and tank mob one by one, and with skill who don't realy grow the hate on monster. So after trying tell him he something he didn't even answer, so we have kick him, the party was sad, we will wait so much for a tank now

I have say don't worry, i leave too and i come with my tank, thing done, i have come back with my tank, and the class i was before was a dps, and a dps join 1 minut later, the dungeon was fine and everyone happy at the end.

[LineageRazor]

Well, if these craptastic tanks are actually in the biz because they're building up the job to try for a mount, they're going to be out of luck anyway. Ex and Coils don't leave a lot of room for one of the two tanks to slack off...

[Tiggy]

I didn't know that EX and coil only counted towards it, good to know. It does effect dungeons though because my Q times were cut by 2/3 on average meaning there are definitely more people tanking. And that's a good thing. The bad thing is the tanks who refuse to do their job.

No it didn't. The Daily Roulette reward for tanks was drastically increased. That's why people are running these. To make 6k on one run just from bonuses.

[Synra]

Bad tanks? I am having the opposite problem. With 2.2 I decided to switch to full time tank, and retire the healers and damage dealer jobs I had been playing previously.

And I am a very good tank if I do say so myself. But I am ready to rage quit tanking because of the terrible people I keep getting in my roulette groups.

The biggest culprits are the BLMs. Most of my groups have one, and they are all terrible at the job. I go to pull, but before I have a chance to flash or overpower, a flare explodes on the enemies. It's insanely difficult to try to recover and maintain threat when someone spikes ALL the enemies with that much threat before I can even get started. They aren't giving me any time to establish initial threat. Worse still, half of them ONLY cast flare, even on 1 or 2 enemies, which is insanely inefficient. Boss fights take forever because the BLM is just cycling flare over and over, doing about 1/4 the damage he could be doing.

Yesterday I had a geared up level 50 WHM, who played like he was a 15 CNJ doing sastasha for the first time. He was constantly using fluid aura to knock enemies away from the melee players. He was also so busy attacking that my health was floating around 10% on pretty much every pull.

But no, I am not going to say anything to these people. I am not going to try to teach them to play better. Why? Because they are freakin level 50. Many are i90 or better. They should KNOW better by now. If they haven't figured out how to half-effectively play their job by now, there's no way I can fix them.

[Giantbane]

No it didn't. The Daily Roulette reward for tanks was drastically increased. That's why people are running these. To make 6k on one run just from bonuses.

This is one reason there are more tanks in DR now. Another is that 2.2 is not that old yet. People whose mains are tanks are still running DR every week to get soldiery gear and myth for animus. After all those tanks have all the soldiery gear they want and have finished their animus, the tank population in duty roulette will likely drop off again to some degree.

[Adrian74]

Hi people... and I have a little question here.

This nooby has done already around 110 dungeons or so in the new server, Zodiark, all of them with my warrior... In Lich I did around 300 or 400 with my PLD and WAR .... And none, none of them had even one point in the achievement

So far I have done all the dungeons until level 50. Then the dungeons of the roulettes high level and extreme, the hard mode trials, the ones of main scenario...Cristal Tower...

Is that I have it bugged? Or that this achievement ONLY WORKS IN COIL?

(Because then, what a waste of achievement, they won't really incentivate tanks like that if the ones that tank in the 98% of the game doesn't obtain anything for this. If the idea was to compensate more the tanks that are risking in even more difficult content then they should do it so those more difficult dungeons give more points... Make it a 500 points achievement, obtaining 1 point in easiers, 2 in normal difficulties, 3 in too hards...)

[AllOutWar]

The biggest culprits are the BLMs. Most of my groups have one, and they are all terrible at the job. I go to pull, but before I have a chance to flash or overpower, a flare explodes on the enemies. It's insanely difficult to try to recover and maintain threat when someone spikes ALL the enemies with that much threat before I can even get started. They aren't giving me any time to establish initial threat. Worse still, half of them ONLY cast flare, even on 1 or 2 enemies, which is insanely inefficient. Boss fights take forever because the BLM is just cycling flare over and over, doing about 1/4 the damage he could be doing.


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I have run across this as well. I guess I should have specified the tank problem is in low level dungeons. In 50 dungeons I have run across tanks who weren't all that great but never ran in to one that just uses auto attacks.

[Vactus]

Hi people... and I have a little question here.

This nooby has done already around 110 dungeons or so in the new server, Zodiark, all of them with my warrior... In Lich I did around 300 or 400 with my PLD and WAR .... And none, none of them had even one point in the achievement

So far I have done all the dungeons until level 50. Then the dungeons of the roulettes high level and extreme, the hard mode trials, the ones of main scenario...Cristal Tower...

Is that I have it bugged? Or that this achievement ONLY WORKS IN COIL?

Nothing prior to 2.2 counts. ONLY Ex Primals and Coil (not T3 though) counts towards the mounts. It was in the patch notes.

[NaliaBrown]

So far I have done all the dungeons until level 50. Then the dungeons of the roulettes high level and extreme, the hard mode trials, the ones of main scenario...Cristal Tower...

Is that I have it bugged? Or that this achievement ONLY WORKS IN COIL?

You only get credit towards the achievement for completing "high level full-party duties" (8-person). Extreme primals (not hard mode) and Coil turns (except for turn 3) are the only things right now that qualify, as far as I know.