Tank mounts the good and bad

[AllOutWar]

Adding mounts for tanks was good idea for the most part. It has dropped DPS Q times dramatically for me at least. I don't think I sat in Q for more than 15 minutes so far. I used to always run dungeons on my pally(even though it was never my main) simply because the Q times for DPS were very high(45 minutes for me on average). Since this patch I have not ran one single dungeon on my tank since the Q times are fairly quick now and I enjoy DPS more.

But with all good comes some bad. And I don't know about you guys but I have been running into some horrible tanks. I'm not talking about new tanks who don't understand rotations or how to keep an eye on threat and the enmity list. I'm talking about flat out terrible players who refuse to do their job.

This week alone I had two dungeons where we had to vote kick the tanks. They run in and auto attack mobs, no flash, no shield lob, no overpower, no provoke... nothing! These two guys didn't even use their rotations. I tried giving tips to both, and even used the auto translate function but they just refused. I wound up tanking most of the dungeons because they couldn't hold hate. I'm starting to get the feeling that this may be RMT farming for the mounts to sell accounts at a higher price but that's just a thought.

I know there is nothing we can do about bad players but can we please expand the reasons for kicking a player? I always choose harassment because it is the closest thing to what I feel they are doing. While they may not be calling people names or being hostile I feel refusing to do your job and making us wipe SEVERAL times because you refuse to take the advice we offer is harassment in my eyes. I know kicking people for the wrong reason is a bannable offense and I openly admit I do it because there is no other option. Now if these people were trying but couldn't hold hate do to being new, poorly geared etc I understand. But flat out refusing to do your job is unacceptable

Anyway enough of my rant. Is anyone else running into this issue? And what are your thoughts on expanding the reasons to kick a player from group?

[Doki]

Doesn't really effect dungeons too much since only EX primals & coil count towards the achievement. I guess it might entice a handful of people to level tanks but personally I think the PLD lion's texture looks horrible.

[AllOutWar]

Doesn't really effect dungeons too much since only EX primals & coil count towards the achievement. I guess it might entice a handful of people to level tanks but personally I think the PLD lion's texture looks horrible.

I didn't know that EX and coil only counted towards it, good to know. It does effect dungeons though because my Q times were cut by 2/3 on average meaning there are definitely more people tanking. And that's a good thing. The bad thing is the tanks who refuse to do their job.

[Tiggy]

I didn't know that EX and coil only counted towards it, good to know. It does effect dungeons though because my Q times were cut by 2/3 on average meaning there are definitely more people tanking. And that's a good thing. The bad thing is the tanks who refuse to do their job.

No it didn't. The Daily Roulette reward for tanks was drastically increased. That's why people are running these. To make 6k on one run just from bonuses.

[Giantbane]

No it didn't. The Daily Roulette reward for tanks was drastically increased. That's why people are running these. To make 6k on one run just from bonuses.

This is one reason there are more tanks in DR now. Another is that 2.2 is not that old yet. People whose mains are tanks are still running DR every week to get soldiery gear and myth for animus. After all those tanks have all the soldiery gear they want and have finished their animus, the tank population in duty roulette will likely drop off again to some degree.

[AllOutWar]

No it didn't. The Daily Roulette reward for tanks was drastically increased. That's why people are running these. To make 6k on one run just from bonuses.

While that may be true I highly doubt that farming a half hour dungeon for a lousy 6k gil (What do you even need gil for anyway in this game?) is the reason behind this rush of NEW tanks. Pretty sure it's people who want the mount. Either way back to the subject, there are quite a few tanks out there running low level dungeons who are ONLY USING AUTO ATTACKS and it's starting to get frustrating.

[Giantbane]

While that may be true I highly doubt that farming a half hour dungeon for a lousy 6k gil (What do you even need gil for anyway in this game?) is the reason behind this rush of NEW tanks. Pretty sure it's people who want the mount. Either way back to the subject, there are quite a few tanks out there running low level dungeons who are ONLY USING AUTO ATTACKS and it's starting to get frustrating.

Play a tank

problem solved

[Tiggy]

While that may be true I highly doubt that farming a half hour dungeon for a lousy 6k gil (What do you even need gil for anyway in this game?) is the reason behind this rush of NEW tanks. Pretty sure it's people who want the mount. Either way back to the subject, there are quite a few tanks out there running low level dungeons who are ONLY USING AUTO ATTACKS and it's starting to get frustrating.

It may not be the entire reason sure, but at the same time it is indeed part of the reason. I know several people in my FC who ONLY use their tanks to hop in and make that easy 6k. So yes, it does happen.

[AllOutWar]

You all seem to be missing the point. Regardless of where you get the mount, people who want that mount need to level a tank. And I am constantly running into tanks that do nothing but auto attack or spam 1 ability. It doesn't happen all the time but has been happening a few times a week every week since patch rolled out. My point of this thread was asking have any of you ran into this issue and what your thoughts are on expanding the reasons to vote kick a person.

[Seif]

As a tank how do these guys even survive without the healer's help?!

For mounts only hard mode dungeons count towards the reward and even in copperbell you cannot make any worthwhile solo progress through it.

If you're killing your pt you are not getting your mount faster by doing so.