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  1. #71
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    Deathscythe343's Avatar
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bufkus View Post
    They delayed it to give people more time to get the atma before the next weapon quest update. They never said they would adjust drop rates or change the first part completely.
    They also never said that they would not adjust it. You're making an assumption.
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  2. #72
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    Asael's Avatar
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    Asael Drakengard
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathscythe343 View Post
    They also never said that they would not adjust it. You're making an assumption.
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    He didn't make any assumption. He just stated that nowhere did they (they being SE) say that the drop rates would be adjusted or changed. Which, as far as I know is true unless they did say so somewhere in a recent statement.

    Now if he had worded it as, "They will never adjust drop rates or change the first part completely" then that would equate to being an assumption... GG
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  3. #73
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    Licus's Avatar
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    Lucius Eventide
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Not sure what people were expecting with atma and animus weapons. Yoshida said, before 2.2, that most people will not have an animus weapon before the next stage is released.

    Although the atma system is not perfect, you should expect to spend at least two weeks stuck at that point. If you have bad RNG, tough titties. There are people who had turn one on farm since October 2013 and still have not seen monk pants or caster ring. Bad RNG happens in every MMO, get over yourselves. Time investments do not always pay out.

    What can help with bad RNG? There are many different weapon alternatives in the game you can acquire while working towards your animus.
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  4. #74
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    Ranzan's Avatar
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    Kheima Rayne
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Somebody started an atma solution thread in the suggestions section. I for one going to leave feedback in game. 4 weeks and only 1 atma is maddening.
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  5. #75
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    Daenerys_Sedai's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Daenerys Sedai
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by pontiuspyrite View Post
    What do you mean no changes? It says at the bottom that they changed the colors of most of em....
    SE trolling at its best. I wonder if the DEVs all high-fived each other with that decision XD
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    Server: Sargatanas || Main Job: Scholar || Chocobo: Bonchon

  6. #76
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Hi guys, I'd like to add a perspective from someone who has their Atma weapon but isn't an insufferable moron (to the best of her knowledge). This quest is AWFUL.

    There are literally no redeeming features of running low level fates endlessly. You get no XP, very little gil and very few seals worth mentioning. Anyone dumb enough to use the comparison to coil runs or avatars has no clue what they're talking about. Guaranteed loot versus no loot and a tiny chance to get your atma is no comparison, it's a broken system and needs to be addressed.

    No one would care if we had to do something to EARN atmas. Heck, I prefer the massive myth grind to the atma grind simply because I'm guaranteed to progress rather than being stuck at the same point for days on end. No one has asked for an easy ride, so stop using that as a weak excuse for why the system is fine. People are asking for an end to relentless grinding for no gain, that's all.

    Anyone who can't understand that simple concept likely still drools on their keyboards.
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  7. #77
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    Dragoon4life's Avatar
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    Drako Redwyne
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Getting the relic itself is a fun quest and getting it to Zenith take patience.

    I HATE PPL THAT HAVE ATMA SAY ITS NOT BROKEN. I FARM 5 HOURS A DAY SINCE THE LAUNCH ONLY TO HAVE 4. HAVE PATIENCE MY BUTT!

    JUST GETTING 13,500 MYTH IS GOING TO TAKE TIME BUT THIS ATMA CRAP NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.

    Animus = Patient, Diligent, Player

    Atma = AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DIDN'T 1 DROP WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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  8. #78
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    Moirear's Avatar
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I got my Atma weapon quickly and I agree it's an awful, stupid system. It should be linear progression like the rest of the quest afterwards. (1500 Myth per tome and clear goals within the books.)

    Too many people didn't like FATE grinding to begin with, and forcing them to do this to get their favorite weapon and then relying on luck for it to drop in any sane amount of time is just silly. It's even more silly to argue that it is supposed to take people a while, because some of us took no time at all to get the 12 Atma crystals in this current system.

    tl;dr, it's unfair and needs to be changed.
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  9. #79
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    I like the current state of Atma. I don't have a atma weapon yet. But it gives me something to do vs doing a 10 min quest and whining there is nothing to do.

    As for if it's fair.
    It's completely fair.

    You have X chance of getting it.

    Only system I think they should put in place is an Atma exchange. Where if I got 2-3 random atmas I could exchange them for the ones I want.
    My wife has 3 atma of the crab from doing fates well doing dailies.
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    Last edited by CrystalRainbow; 04-25-2014 at 05:05 AM.

  10. #80
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    Daenerys_Sedai's Avatar
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    Daenerys Sedai
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    At the very least, it would be nice to be bale to purchase books ahead of atma. At least you could myth farm in between atma grinds. While maxing out Soldiery, one builds up quite a bit of myth.
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