"Most people don't have Animus yet"...

[SionDurant]

Yep,

Nerf Atma now please. You can leave the book grind the way it is.

[Xine]

I got my 12 atmas in a week and finished my 12 books and got my animus 2 weeks later. Granted I play a majority of the day and even I couldn't stand the constant FATE grinding. I also hope like hell the next part of the quest does NOT include more Myth farming or even move it on to Soldiery farming every week for a measly +2 to 1 attribute....

As I saw a few people mention, having to fight the old Zodiacs from Tactics would've have been a MUCH better idea for the atma grind vs the constant FATE and Myth grinding. The books honestly weren't that bad to complete, I had mine finished within 2-3 hours each with the exception of the one book that needed both Taken and Tower of Power, 2-4 hour wait times for both FATEs..... Things need fixing and personally I'm a bit relieved to hear the next part of the Relic upgrade is being put on hold for a bit, I could use a break from constantly running dungeons for myth tomes.

[Obysuca]

the battles rely too much on group cohesion which causes complications if other players are not up to speed with everyone else. Which is why I do not want it locked behind group content that is a pain to clear.

>.> Half the party not doing as well as they should? Don't ragequit, teach them so they can be better. If people keep ragequitting because of a few people not doing that great, it's not going to help the problem at all. The more people learn to help/teach people how to do a fight/their job, the less problems we'd have with bad parties. Pretty sure it'll bring some rage from other people, but as it's been said before and I'm sure people will agree, it's a mmo, there's a community. It's not all about you. Better the group to better the game.

[SionDurant]

Yep I guarantee you if SE had made this more interesting and made special mobs etc, people would've tolerated this much more and felt more obliged to do it. Should've made it like the FFT Zodiac Brave saga.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It took me 3 weeks to the day from atma-animus. And I only did dailies and capped soldiery every week, along with helping people get their soldiery. the only book I did any grinding for was my 9th just to get it done. It doesnt take hours and hours of grinding to be able to get the myth for the books, its actually pretty easy.

As for the atma themselves, it would have been great if they were bosses or something, but then you'd either get "Why can't i take friends in to help me with this?" OR "Why do I have to party with people to get this, I should be able to solo it!"

Its a lose-lose for them there, as it was with the fates.

This should be a lesson to be careful what you wish for. Asking for a reason to go into the open world without giving good ideas/specifics and the dev's will do it their way.

[Arkista]

You can take the books more slowly, you know. No one forces you to run Brayflox over and over and over.

This. I'm about to get book 5, But I've been taking it slow. Took me a week to get all 12 Atma. After that life sucking experience I lost the will to do the books. I had planned to do one book every 2 days but that went out the window.

It doesnt take hours and hours of grinding to be able to get the myth for the books, its actually pretty easy.

It takes a pretty good amount to time to get 13,500 myth tomes done. Dailies do help some what but it still takes a long time to get done.


I hope that no one that has a Animus gets butt hurt if they do adjust the drop rate for Atma and adjust the amount of tomes needed for the books.

[KingOfAbyss]

Yep I guarantee you if SE had made this more interesting and made special mobs etc, people would've tolerated this much more and felt more obliged to do it. Should've made it like the FFT Zodiac Brave saga.

- Who knows if it's not their intent for the next 10 phases of Relic upgrades until the expansion?

I love that they keep some secrecy, not putting everything on a silver plate.

*goes back to the game, sending retainers getting Atmas..

[Welsper59]

It took me 3 weeks to the day from atma-animus. And I only did dailies and capped soldiery every week, along with helping people get their soldiery. the only book I did any grinding for was my 9th just to get it done. It doesnt take hours and hours of grinding to be able to get the myth for the books, its actually pretty easy.

As for the atma themselves, it would have been great if they were bosses or something, but then you'd either get "Why can't i take friends in to help me with this?" OR "Why do I have to party with people to get this, I should be able to solo it!"

Its a lose-lose for them there, as it was with the fates.

This should be a lesson to be careful what you wish for. Asking for a reason to go into the open world without giving good ideas/specifics and the dev's will do it their way.

I don't think too many people would complain if it were boss related. They would probably complain about difficulty though. If it were along the lines of initial Twintania or something, you can bet the crying would never end. If it were too "easy" (maybe TEX difficulty), we'll complain again. Generally speaking, we (the player base) do not know what we want for this or any game we complain about. We think we do, we can claim that we know exactly what this game/situation needs, but we really don't. We're just going upon our feelings at this very moment, for this specific instance (based upon our party make up, current experience, mood, etc). 10 minutes from now, that exact feeling is likely to change in some, probably small, way.

[TeaTimeBear]

Time can also translate to not being casual friendly, not just content difficulty. Which is, primarily, the stance that you and many others complain about having problems with. RNG is not a nice mistress to be around, but it's a feature (love it or hate it) of RPGs... especially MMORPGs.

What sense of wonder is there to be had here? There's barely any lore for crying out loud. But you know I could see myself like you if it weren't week 4 of the 1st part for myself.

[Zhi]

I just wanted to know how the new relic would look like :c