New System Involving Materia

[Eekiki]

I like to see the Materia System become less obtuse and more transparent. You shouldn't have to leave the game and search for Stat Caps on Google to figure out which Materia you're basically forced to use. There's very little choice in the system. I'd also like to see more Secondary Stats like Cure Potency, Block % Up, etc.

So much truth. As a whole, the materia system is way too restrictive to be useful in the big scheme of things.

Seeing how this new system involving materia was in the same sentence as "additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den", I think it's pretty likely they're only referring to PVP Materia.

I sure hope this isn't true, since my observations lead me to believe that next to nobody cares about PvP.

[Giantbane]

My hopes:

1) Give players another (better) option for materia generation other than grinding while wearing crappy gear.

2) Change the overmeld process so it doesn't involve spamming meld on a particular piece of gear until it sticks (very tedious).

[Fervid]

I sure hope this isn't true, since my observations lead me to believe that next to nobody cares about PvP.

Well.. I think most people are only taking what they want out of that sentence and in doing so are setting themselves up to be let down. I guess we'll find out soon enough. For the record, I hope I'm wrong.

[TheCurls]

Well.. I think most people are only taking what they want out of that sentence and in doing so are setting themselves up to be let down. I guess we'll find out soon enough. For the record, I hope I'm wrong.

The actual quote is: "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den, as well as a new system involving materia."

The "as well as..." does not mean the materia system refers to the wolves' den. It is referring to Patch 2.25's focus. If it was about the wolves' den, the sentence would have read "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions, ajustments, as well as introducing a new system involving materia to the Wolves' Den."

Edit- Hooray for English degrees. They're useful sometimes.

[Astralos]

The actual quote is: "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den, as well as a new system involving materia."

The "as well as..." does not mean the materia system refers to the wolves' den. It is referring to Patch 2.25's focus. If it was about the wolves' den, the sentence would have read "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions, ajustments, as well as introducing a new system involving materia to the Wolves' Den."

Edit- Hooray for English degrees. They're useful sometimes.

I agree with your interpretation. If it were a new system involving materia just for PvP, then the sentence is redundant. A new system involving materia for PvP would count as an addition to the Wolves' Den.

Of course, it could also be possible that SE bungled something up in the translation...it wouldn't be the first time.

[Ooshima]

The actual quote is: "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den, as well as a new system involving materia."

The "as well as..." does not mean the materia system refers to the wolves' den. It is referring to Patch 2.25's focus. If it was about the wolves' den, the sentence would have read "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions, ajustments, as well as introducing a new system involving materia to the Wolves' Den."

Edit- Hooray for English degrees. They're useful sometimes.

I agree with your interpretation. If it were a new system involving materia just for PvP, then the sentence is redundant. A new system involving materia for PvP would count as an addition to the Wolves' Den.

Of course, it could also be possible that SE bungled something up in the translation...it wouldn't be the first time.

The EN translation on that part is correct.

The JP live letter says:

まずパッチ2.25では、お待たせしているPvPコンテンツ"ウルヴズジェイル"のアップデートや、
マテリア関連のシステムアップデートが行われます。

The particle "や" (ya) means "and" in English, and here it is used to separate "content update to PVP Wolf's Jail (that's what the Japanese call it) and System updates related to Materia. So it would mean: Content updates to Wolf's Den and updates to the Materia system.

[Cetra]

So much truth. As a whole, the materia system is way too restrictive to be useful in the big scheme of things.

Exactly, it never really serves a purpose except to allow someone to leapfrog a level of gear. Properly overmelded Vanya allows you to skip most Darklight for example. But you can't meld Darklight. So where is the real value in using Materia? As I see there is none. Not until the system is more transparent, and more items can be melded. I'll continue to use it if the system remains the same, but I'd love for the Materia System to be overhauled so that it matters at all levels of play rather than specific gear ranges. It would be a great way to get the whole gear stat game rolling.

I don't know about anyone else, but I love napkin-mathing gear at endgame to see which combination of gear etc gets me the most VIT or ACC or Parry. But that doesn't exist in FFXIV. A proper Materia System could change all that for the better.