Possible Alternative to current Atma?

[Keoeson]

But the current state of RNG for Atma is very atrocious, 30 hrs spent to show for 1 atma stone whereas my FC mates come in 3-5 HR's and get 11/12 or even 12/12. It's not a very balanced system considering.

The SE RNG is weird, but these massive differences in drop rates shouldn't be possible even with this. It can't be coincidence and there must be some kind of system behind it.
It's more likely that each atma can have a different drop rate and nobody has figured out the system behind it yet. I think that all players that farm for atmas in just one area for hours are doing it wrong. So the best option for now seems to be to change areas frequently.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I would MUCH rather spend a full week doing 600 Fates (50 in each of the 12 areas) to obtain the pieces needed to upgrade, than to spend the last week doing Fates to have one piece.

[Clavaat]

Also a very small irritance: These fates count against my Challenge Log so I'm robbed of my EXP gain on my Bard or Monk.

You gotta be kidding. Do the FATEs for your challenge log on BRD/MNK...THEN do your grinding. Why do you have to do the grinding first? Come on...

[SionDurant]

You gotta be kidding. Do the FATEs for your challenge log on BRD/MNK...THEN do your grinding. Why do you have to do the grinding first? Come on...

XD whoa. That rage is wild, maybe you're kidding.

Why honestly would I do the BRD grind as priority if my priority is another class? Challenge Logs should be per class XD, why wouldn't they be? Why would I want to waste the XP for example of doing commendations on my WHM, so you're saying here for the commendation challenge I should purposely not commend a good tank while I'm on WHM because I want the XP for my BRD?

That seems kinda awful right?

[Clavaat]

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Because you still make 2k gil from doing it. If it were open to every job, the gil fountain would be incredible. This just forces you to actually think about what you're doing. As in "Oh, I want the Challenge log exp for my DR challenge. I'm one away. I guess I'll queue up as something that could use the exp." It's not hard, and it's a silly thing to say. If you don't care to lvl BRD, then don't level BRD. Or, you just do 9 different FATE's, switch to BRD, do 1, get your EXP, go back to your grind.

You made fairly interesting posts up until this point, don't ruin it by saying something stupid.

[Felis]

Another way they could do it is have it as a complete xx amount of FATEs to obtain the atma, they could tie that into lore by saying something like once so many mobs have been defeated (but we would still use FATEs) the aether released by the slewen monsters would react with the Zenith and crystalise forming a type of crystal known as Atma. Also to tie seperate zones into lore they could say "the environment inwhich the aether crystalises seems to affect the type of Atma created."

This sounds good.
But not only "do xx amount of FATEs in zone z", but more "do xx amount of boss FATEs and xx amount of enemy group FATEs in zone z" or people would only do the easier FATEs.

[Xandim]

XD whoa. That rage is wild, maybe you're kidding.

Why honestly would I do the BRD grind as priority if my priority is another class? Challenge Logs should be per class XD, why wouldn't they be? Why would I want to waste the XP for example of doing commendations on my WHM, so you're saying here for the commendation challenge I should purposely not commend a good tank while I'm on WHM because I want the XP for my BRD?

That seems kinda awful right?

Can't you just save the last FATE to get the challenge log and do it with your BRD/MNK? Like you do 9 fates, the 10th (cant remember the numbers right now) you do with your other class, then go back to atma farming =P

Personally i'd like to buy Atmas with seals, so I could fate farm or just hand in old/unneeded equipment to get some seals.

[CYoung187]

Lol, that was rage? Sounded like common sense.

[SionDurant]

Lol, that was rage? Sounded like common sense.

It is,

I'm teasing I'm sorry. You're correct I could do my BRD stuff first but I won't because I consider the atma priority so I save my BRD for when I'm off on Sundays and Saturdays.

[SionDurant]

I also like the ideas people posted of making 12 Zodiac NM's, they could even add fun loots to these (maybe pure cosmetic drops). Do a nice little tie in to FFT? Maybe some of them are some of the Zodiac Brave monsters like Adramalech or Velius??

Sounds kinda sexy to me.