Why do sch and smn share point allocation

[MathewZilla]

bumping for continued outrage

[Viviza]

They share a stat allocation because bonus stats are based on your class. Jobs are extensions of your class, not replacements for your class.

You're free to disagree with this, but that's the way the system works. Your choices are to favor one job, the other, or split your points accordingly. It may seem a little weird for arcanists, but the upside is that arcanists get an extra job for "free". Other classes will probably get a likewise deal in the future.

Some people will say that the stat allocation doesn't matter, but I strongly disagree. 30 points in a primary stat is an entire i90 chest or leg piece of gear. You don't see people refusing to wear certain piece of armor because "it's a hassle and I can beat it like this anyway". That sort of logic is nonsensical, and so is simply dismissing 30 points of stats in your main role. Still, if you like both jobs, you have to make a sacrifice somewhere. Perhaps try some different dps/healing classes?

[RazeLandale]

They should probably just drop stat allocation entirely. Asides from frustrating arcanist branches what does it really add? I guess black mages want to hit their piety sweet spot where they get one more fire and that's one way to go about it, but generally you pump your main stat because it'd be dumb not to. It's not customization if there's just one option.

[ManaKeKz]

This whole point allocation business just feels like a half-assed attempt at customization. You get to "choose" between 3 stats that do exactly nothing for your class (4 if you're a tank), Piety (which does exactly nothing for almost every class, but may have some justifiable applications on healers and casters), Vitality for those extra HP that you barely ever need (unless you're a tank) or your main stat that gives you a decent boost in performing the job you chose to do...
The only instance where the choice really becomes one is when you are forced to decide between Scholar and Summoner. Any way you look at it, one of them gets the shaft and that's quite a shame - I would've loved to play my Summoner, but neither respeccing all the time nor losing 30 points of int seemed very appealing to me, so now I dps on a Black Mage - essentially just removing one job I would have played.

[Ninix]

It's really, really stupid and the whole stat allocation system is terrible, but they've repeated many times that this is the way they have intended it to be and they are not planning on changing it. Additionally, when we get more branching jobs for other classes in future patches or expansions, they will have to deal with the same thing.

[Hiroradius]

Because Summoner and Scholars are advanced Arcanists.. That's all. They are not something different they are just using Arcanists different ways. Deal with it.

I just can't believe after this long people STILL post these, "I don't like how the system works so change it" kinda things... it's the design of the game, deal with it or don't be an Arcanist..

[Argyle_Darkheart]

I just can't believe after this long people STILL post these, "I don't like how the system works so change it" kinda things... it's the design of the game, deal with it or don't be an Arcanist..

Why, in a regularly updated game, would you just bend over and accept what you feel are crap design choices? It's not interesting; it's not fun, and I don't care if SE thinks it's good design.

Personally, I would MUCH rather level two jobs than have them share stat allocations, if that's what it takes.

[ManaKeKz]

Personally, I would MUCH rather level two jobs than have them share stat allocations, if that's what it takes.

Agreed.

/10char

[sheepysheepy]

10,000 seals is not a huge deal late in the game.. a lot of people are sitting on 50,000 and don't even spend them, i poured them into hymnkeepers books for a while and have 18 in my inventory just in case


just switch once a week instead of 10 times a day..

[ManaKeKz]

just switch once a week instead of 10 times a day..

But once a week doesn't really cut it. If you're healing in higher end PvE content say 2 raid days a week and wanna play SMN in between, you'd have at least 4 books per week (2 switches to Scholar for the 2 raid days and switching back to Summoner after). I for one am not willing to farm 40k seals per week just so I can play my Summoner well so I just geared up my Black Mage and never looked at SMN again. Which is a shame, really - it's a fun job to play.