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    Player Axlle10's Avatar
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    Axle Ten
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Its not a restriction in any way shape or form. the points are really there just to help you while you level. after hitting 50 most of you gear will determine how good you do. I can dps 99% as effectively with my summoner than i can 100% heal with my scholar.
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    Nathan061111's Avatar
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    Character
    Aladdin Sane
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    15 points of MND/ INT is perfectly sufficient you can still be a very very good dps or a very very good healer. Minmaxing is nice but not that important. 30 STR WARs can clear all content up to EX primals and T5, that's an example of how the stat allocation isn't game breaking. Finally maximising your rotation or time of your heals is far far more important than your stat allocation.
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    wizzed's Avatar
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    Wizzed Atria
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I'm not surprised that in the future there might be a case where a archer class will need to max STR because the new job is a STR type.
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    Andres_Lonegrief's Avatar
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    Andres Lonegrief
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    When I was leveling my SMN/SCH (I like them both and can't make up my mind) I gave most of my attribute points to INT, occasionally I spent some of them on MIND and maybe Piety (not really sure though). Is it safe to buy a potion to give to my SMN's INT 30 point? I'm asking because I read different opinions and I'm a bit confused. I don't want to do something which might prevent me to use successfully my SCH in end game content.

    I also leveled a WHM, but I doesn't enjoy it as much as I enjoy being a SMN or a SCH.

    Anyway, I would never create an alt just to play both classes: it would mean starting from 0 once again and without your friends / FC company friends since you would have also to change server (if you have paid an entry-level subscription).
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    Mercurias's Avatar
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    Character
    M'sato Nunh
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    While leveling ACN up as a first class I really focus on, I've been healing through dungeons as a SCH and DPSing through the story as a SMN in order to avoid gratuitous wait times while playing both jobs. I dump every point into INT, and I've yet to have a dungeon fail because my healing was too weak.

    Failure because of,other reasons? Oh sure. When a tank is running on gear lower leveled than mine and/or aggro goes everywhere to the point that I have to burn through my mp pool spamming succor, then things get ugly. Twenty points in Mind won't make your team suddenly competent, however.

    Besides, by the time level 50 rolls around, you should know enough about how to play that you should be able to have an easy time leveling up a WHM. Heck, WHM was the first job I unlocked, and it's still healer easy mode when I feel like leveling it to work towards Stoneskin via dungeons. I'm also already swimming in a grand company tickets. Getting ten thousand of them to switch back and forth now and again between optimizations that really only matter on coils? Still not a big deal for me. That'll happen by simple accrual when grinding FATEs.
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Character
    Ayukawa Madoka
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Every future branching job option will have to make this choice. Arcanist is just the first.

    Get used to it
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    KoujiMoreno's Avatar
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    Character
    Soi Fong
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I don't play SCH or SMN really unless I'm just bored of my more geared WHM, but what is the initial point of the two sharing stats? Why did SE choose to go down this route? Just curious.
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    MathewZilla's Avatar
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    Scrappy Doo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    bumping for continued outrage
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    Viviza's Avatar
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    Character
    Viviza Viza
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    They share a stat allocation because bonus stats are based on your class. Jobs are extensions of your class, not replacements for your class.

    You're free to disagree with this, but that's the way the system works. Your choices are to favor one job, the other, or split your points accordingly. It may seem a little weird for arcanists, but the upside is that arcanists get an extra job for "free". Other classes will probably get a likewise deal in the future.

    Some people will say that the stat allocation doesn't matter, but I strongly disagree. 30 points in a primary stat is an entire i90 chest or leg piece of gear. You don't see people refusing to wear certain piece of armor because "it's a hassle and I can beat it like this anyway". That sort of logic is nonsensical, and so is simply dismissing 30 points of stats in your main role. Still, if you like both jobs, you have to make a sacrifice somewhere. Perhaps try some different dps/healing classes?
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    RazeLandale's Avatar
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    Character
    Raze Landale
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    They should probably just drop stat allocation entirely. Asides from frustrating arcanist branches what does it really add? I guess black mages want to hit their piety sweet spot where they get one more fire and that's one way to go about it, but generally you pump your main stat because it'd be dumb not to. It's not customization if there's just one option.
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