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  1. #11
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    krazyrs's Avatar
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    i reverse steadyhand2/waste not so they both have 4 stacks for a hastytouch x4 run
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    Last edited by krazyrs; 04-22-2014 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitlordd View Post
    Sorry to be pain, but could u possibly put the names for the abbreviations please

    Thanks
    trying to do spicy tomato relish, not having any luck getting HQ
    This rotation is for 3-star only, spicy tomato relish is 2-star. And before you get the rest DoH to lv50 you don't need it.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazyrs View Post
    i reverse steadyhand2/waste not so they both have 4 stacks for a hastytouch x4 run
    You only need to land 3 touch/syth to get the most of the 1st WN, so you gain one more turn of SH2 by using WN>SH2 instead of SH2>WN
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    You only need to land 3 touch/syth to get the most of the 1st WN, so you gain one more turn of SH2 by using WN>SH2 instead of SH2>WN
    yeah i agree, the extra waste not stack would leave you with 10 durability at the end, when all u need is 5, so it doesn't benefit you like an extra stack of SH would. btw, thank you for this rotation. it is similar to one that i created, but mine had some glaring errors, and required a handful of hastys without SH on,which really sucks. btw, for one of my classes, i only have 387 cp. so basically, if you have at least 385 cp with food, then you can substitute the last steady hand 2 for a steady hand 1, being that its really only for the BB finisher, and BB is 90% already so its fine. i appreciate you sharing though.
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    Butta Stackz
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    Here is how:
    Rapid syth gamble (this will give you one more HT)
    bait good/ex by changing the order of CS II and BB, the consequence is your BB will not be under SH (you may fail 10% of the time) but you will get 2 more chances of landing BB on good/ex
    First off thanks so much for this its all greatly appreciated. I wanted to know if you could touch base more on "Taking a Gamble" on 3star matts (terminus putty specifically).

    When would be the time to use Rapid Synth? Would we simply replace both PbP with 1 Rapid Synth? Also if that Rapid Synth Fails is that pretty much a Recliam (Even though we arent supposed to use it we wont have enough progress at the end if it fails) ?

    I'm a little confused when you say switch the order of CS II and BB. Are you essentially saying save BB for when you see a Good/Excellent after doing 2 CS II's? and if you dont see a Good/Excellent proc after 2 of them then use BB before the final progress? Examples below

    Example 1: CS II > CS II > (Good/Excellent) BB > CS II
    Example 2: CS II > (Good/Exellent) BB > CS II > CS II
    Example 3: CS II > CS II > BB > CS II

    Thanks again.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 04-25-2014 at 04:28 AM.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    I'm a little confused when you say switch the order of CS II and BB. Are you essentially saying save BB for when you see a Good/Excellent after doing 2 CS II's? and if you dont see a Good/Excellent proc after 2 of them then use BB before the final progress? Examples below

    Example 1: CS II > CS II > (Good/Excellent) BB > CS II
    Example 2: CS II > (Good/Exellent) BB > CS II > CS II
    Example 3: CS II > CS II > BB > CS II
    Yes, this is what I am doing now.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post

    When would be the time to use Rapid Synth?
    I don't do this a lot, but there are general 2 plans:

    Always start with the 1st PbP then:
    a. Use Rapid 2 to 3 times in a low under IG2 at the beginning of a syth, this will save you 15CP (from then 2nd PbP) and 10 to 20 durability. Since IG2 costs 32CP the real gain is that durability for more touches. (This is very cheap because other durability recover skill normally ask for 24.5CP to 30.7CP for 10 durability. And you have to "buy" at least 20 durability at a time. )
    b. Replace CSII x 3 by Rapid + CSII x 1 at the end of a syth, this will save you 10 durability for one more touch. e.g. SH II>IG2>Rapid>touch>GS>BB>CSII
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    Last edited by ImDingDing; 04-25-2014 at 12:45 PM.

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    Butta Stackz
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    Hey DingDing! Just wanted to say thanks again. I went ahead and tested out your rotation on Terminus Putty last night (1st 3star besides food).

    One issue that kept throwing me off was that Step #s 7 and 8 in your roatation are really the same step. I would sometimes forget to refresh CZ due to the wording (thankfully on 3star food) so i just simply put them both as step #7.

    I did 3 synths. The first synth went almost flawlessly reaching a 9stack IQ but i decided to gamble on the CS2/BB order and risked a 90% BB without SH2 and it failed (terrible luck). 3NQ Terminus on my 1st attempt.

    The other 2 attempts went better as i got lucky with a good status on the BB both of the times. 91% and 93% HQ's on them both.

    Love your rotation! You tha man!
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 04-29-2014 at 11:32 PM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    This rotation is for 3-star only, spicy tomato relish is 2-star. And before you get the rest DoH to lv50 you don't need it.
    Is there a viable rotation for the Relish before getting the new MH / Hat? I have a fully melded AF set, and yet my normal 2 star rotation doesnt even come close to working on the blasted relish. does this rotation of yours work on the Relish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KagatoAC View Post
    Is there a viable rotation for the Relish before getting the new MH / Hat? I have a fully melded AF set, and yet my normal 2 star rotation doesnt even come close to working on the blasted relish. does this rotation of yours work on the Relish?
    I made a macro and tested it. I haven't failed the 15 synths (ran out of time on the bouillabaisse + mats) with my stats (which I don't have atm .. I recently finished 4 overmeld pieces.. ) See if this works for you.

    Credits to both the OP and the mod from SarisaKorvalis:
    http://tiny.cc/n1g9ex

    I've made this into a macro ..:

    Code:
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <me>  <wait.3>
    /echo Macro A completed. If Excellent, hit Macro C.
    Macro for NORMAL condition.
    Code:
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo Synthesis Complete.
    Macro for Excellent proc.
    Code:
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo Synthesis Complete.
    Edit: bloody char limit...
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