ATMA ATMA ATMA

[AmyNeudaiz]

I think that they should add a quest, where you just need to speak to the npc next to the quest giver and he will give you an Ilvl 500 weapon. That would be such a fun quest! And it would be so much fun to get that awesome weapon without putting any effort into it! And then we could all stand in mor dhona showing everyone our cool ilvl 500 weapon and then we don't have anything to do until they add the next weapon the next patch. It should totally be an ilvl 1000! And it should be even easier to get. Actually we should aall get it by just logging in to the game! Even if you aren't level 50! Yeah that would fix this game!

Just don't get this agrument they add one feature to the game that is grind/timesink and it's optional to do btw and its the end of the world scenario for a certain group of people. They already catering 99% of this game to players like youself and threw in a 1% or single feature to a game that cater's maybe to a different crowded of gamer and you want to complain about it I called that stance a hyperbole argument .

Let me make this clear. I like grinding. It's my kind of thing, I love to work towards the things I want without it handed to me. I Really want to do those books everyone talks about! I don't mind low drop rates. I did Ifrit Hard Mode back in 1.0 for weeks before I got my first weapon. I really didn't mind that and it was REALLY satisfying to get my first weapon.

When leveling my Arcanist here in 2.0 I did fates. I didn't particularly like it, but hey it gave me EXP and I progressed! I liked that! It was bearable to do.

But doing FATEs for weeks with nothing to show for it while others who have put in the same amount of time as me have Animus already or even 2? Uhm, no. Spending more time TRAVELING to a FATE than I do Actually Playing The Game? No thank you. Not fun.

[ReplicaX]

No idea where people are getting the idea that the rate is going to be increased/nerfed in 2.5 as there has been no mention of this from Yoshii. In the changes he mentioned about 2.5 incoming, there was no mention of atma's have their drop rate increased, etc.

I don't assume, that's what patch notes are for.

[Chihaya]

Atma is too hard to get, please make it easier.

When Atma FATES gets nerfed...
Books cost too much myth, lower the cost of the books.

When books myth cost is lowered...
The whole atma weapon quest is too long, please just throw the whole god damn quest and give us the weapons.

Mentality of the thread. Who don't want free hand outs!

[AmyNeudaiz]

Atma is too hard to get, please make it easier.

When Atma FATES gets nerfed...
Books cost too much myth, lower the cost of the books.

When books myth cost is lowered...
The whole atma weapon quest is too long, please just throw the whole god damn quest and give us the weapons.

Mentality of the thread. Who don't want free hand outs!

Quote one post in this thread that is asking for it to be easier. All I see are people asking it to be different.
If you can't, well time to reconsider why people want it changed. Heck just read my last post

Making it "different" because you can't seem to get it = making it "easier" to obtain. Now, where's my free hand outs?

Getting Ifrit and Moogle weapon in 1.0 was about as time consuming and random as Atma are now yet the QQ back then was abysmal. Why? Because it was fun. That is what people generally want. Fun. When they added the token system to Garuda it was actually still harder to get them than Ifrit/Moogle that is what people want.

Well you may like grinding but their different types of grinds that appeal differently to other player or gamer's. I have yet to get a single atma myself but I don't grind it for hours on end I give a hour or two to fates and move on. I don't rage over it I go do something else or put down the controller, I don't treat this game like a second job and stress over superfical features to a game. How I spend my time on something is my own way of gaming, maybe you should reflect on your own and don't focus on it so much.

Your post argues in my favor. Why should something feel like a job when it's made for fun?

[Eardstapa]

No idea where people are getting the idea that the rate is going to be increased/nerfed in 2.5 as there has been no mention of this from Yoshii. In the changes he mentioned about 2.5 incoming, there was no mention of atma's have their drop rate increased, etc.

2.5? Since when are we skipping 2.3 and 2.4?

[Arkista]

It's not SE problem OP is using Allagan Baghnakhs expecting to get Atam's either.

Ouch... That has to suck.

[Chihaya]

Quote one post in this thread that is asking for it to be easier. All I see are people asking it to be different.
If you can't, well time to reconsider why people want it changed. Heck just read my last post

Making it "different" because you can't seem to get it = making it "easier" to obtain. Now, where's my free hand outs?

[Syrellaris]

This will either get nerfed / changed before 2.3 even gets released or it will be nerfed in 2.3. I really hope square will start to notice people hate fates. I hated it in the beginning of the game and farming it to lvl, I hated it in 2.1 with the daily quests stuff and Now I hate it with farming atma's. Specially since I started today with the atma farming and spend 1 hour in Central Shroud farming fates and it is literally horrible, boring and not fun. It simply requires a change. I cannot see why Square can't think of hard, fun and challenging quest lines for the upgrading of there Relic / Zodiac weaponry.

If you are adding it in fates, then add 12 new fates, one in each zone that drop a Atma on Gold completion 100% and then continue with a second part to complete it using Myths, Soldiery and Dungeon quests to get it. However fates with a low drop rate is just horrible.

[Insidious]

2.5? Since when are we skipping 2.3 and 2.4?

2.5 is when they plan to continue with the atma/relic weapon storyline. Prior to then, I really doubt there is going to be any nerf whatsoever to the drop rate. 3.0 will finish so maybe sometime between there they might change something. It's SE so I wouldn't count on it.

[odintius]

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Well you may like grinding but their different types of grinds that appeal differently to other player or gamer's. I have yet to get a single atma myself but I don't grind it for hours on end I give a hour or two to fates and move on. I don't rage over it I go do something else or put down the controller, I don't treat this game like a second job and stress over superfical features to a game. How I spend my time on something is my own way of gaming, maybe you should reflect on your own and don't focus on it so much.