ATMA ATMA ATMA

[odintius]

Your post argues in my favor. Why should something feel like a job when it's made for fun?

Because I don't mine the grind/timesink of what SE added for a single feature theirs a big difference in that alone perhapes which you wont grasp even if I'd explain it in detail. I will eventually get the atmas at a slower pace then adverage player's and I don't mind that at all I'm not in a race to get everything all at once and this feature wont change that opinion.

[Chihaya]

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2014/0...-in-patch-2-2/
Naoki Yoshida states that the Zodiac Weapons are a form of upgraded Relic Weapon which will take a considerable amount of time to complete, and will be upgraded in the form of phases in each patch. Yoshida goes on to mention that not many players will have the first phase completed before the second one launches in 2.25, and that this is a very overtime goal for players to work on and that their viability as future weapons will remain for some time.

If you can't handle the RNG, just don't do it now, there's other things that give you ilvl100 or even higher weapon. It is suppose to be time consuming, and again like all content, once new "phase" comes out old stuff will become easier.

It probably doesn't sound convincing since I do have my atma weapon, but I also did pour about 10hrs into Upper La Noscea before I decided to hop around and sort of follow the JP Atma theory/voodoo, which seemed to work for me to some extent, but not 100%.

[Syrellaris]

This will either get nerfed / changed before 2.3 even gets released or it will be nerfed in 2.3. I really hope square will start to notice people hate fates. I hated it in the beginning of the game and farming it to lvl, I hated it in 2.1 with the daily quests stuff and Now I hate it with farming atma's. Specially since I started today with the atma farming and spend 1 hour in Central Shroud farming fates and it is literally horrible, boring and not fun. It simply requires a change. I cannot see why Square can't think of hard, fun and challenging quest lines for the upgrading of there Relic / Zodiac weaponry.

If you are adding it in fates, then add 12 new fates, one in each zone that drop a Atma on Gold completion 100% and then continue with a second part to complete it using Myths, Soldiery and Dungeon quests to get it. However fates with a low drop rate is just horrible.

[ninesunz]

How I Atma:

1.) don't stay in the same zone for over 1 hour
2.) don't stay in the fate until it completes/ends/finishes, do your thing and get moving to the next fate
3.) ???
4.) watch the glorious multiple pop ups when the fates end

[Felis]

How I Atma:

1.) don't stay in the same zone for over 1 hour

What if only 1 atma is still missing?

[Decrith]

What if only 1 atma is still missing?

Take a break and do other content.

[ninesunz]

What if only 1 atma is still missing?

1 atma missing is a good problem to have

[Chihaya]

What if only 1 atma is still missing?

Grind until you get it or pray to the Atma voodoo
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/

[Goufunaki]

Making it "different" because you can't seem to get it = making it "easier" to obtain. Now, where's my free hand outs?

No one wants easy.

But having something in place to where you actually earn the rewards is more satisfying and worth doing multiple times.

[Lollerblades]

I wish they'd give us an alternative. I don't find grinding fates fun. Nor are they a real "challenge"! Any tom dick and harry with no life can farm them if they get lucky with atma. I want to know which sad developer thought this was fun.