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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladislav View Post
    Well i saw not only tanks droppin , but dps & healers too . Atm what i doing is taking screenshot right @start so i know who to report lol
    Report them for what? Leaving a duty is not against the rules, even if it's done immediately after zoning in. It's inconvenient for the other players, absolutely, but it's not actionable behavior. You're just wasting GM time and making support queues even longer than they already are.

    The game already has a built-in penalty for doing this sort of thing, it's called the 30-minute leaver cooldown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninix View Post
    Report them for what? Leaving a duty is not against the rules, even if it's done immediately after zoning in. It's inconvenient for the other players, absolutely, but it's not actionable behavior. You're just wasting GM time and making support queues even longer than they already are.

    The game already has a built-in penalty for doing this sort of thing, it's called the 30-minute leaver cooldown.
    30 min obv. not enough , reporting for harassement , no excuse for drop & frustating other ppl's lol
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    I often leave during titan hm when I get it on trials roulette. I really did give everyone a chance though. For several days I went in with a positive attitude thinking it's old content and everyone can do it now. What with the echo buff and all, it should be cake for everyone else. I ended up spending an hour + each time I was there because people still can't dodge and people keep saying "let's keep going until we have the full echo buff." Oh how that makes me cringe. . . Every titan hm experience I can say with full confidence, was exactly the same, so now I don't even bother if I get it in roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladislav View Post
    30 min obv. not enough , reporting for harassement , no excuse for drop & frustating other ppl's lol
    How did they harass you? They inconvenienced you, sure, but they did nothing to harass you. If before leaving they said, "eww, Pharos again, screw this dungeon and screw you guys, have fun looking for another tank!" then sure, you might have a case.

    But otherwise, for all you know an emergency could have come up and they simply had to leave immediately. You have no way of knowing what the reason was, and neither does the GM, so the person will not get banned and you are still wasting GM time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninix View Post
    How did they harass you? They inconvenienced you, sure, but they did nothing to harass you. If before leaving they said, "eww, Pharos again, screw this dungeon and screw you guys, have fun looking for another tank!" then sure, you might have a case.

    But otherwise, for all you know an emergency could have come up and they simply had to leave immediately. You have no way of knowing what the reason was, and neither does the GM, so the person will not get banned and you are still wasting GM time.
    Yes, its a different issue from getting kicked by a group of players than if somebody leaves on his own. There can always be the excuse made that it was an emergency and he had to go with no way to disprove it otherwise. Instead of reporting them we should keep talking about it on forums and such, and have the game itself find a way to handle with these players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoreore View Post
    I often leave during titan hm when I get it on trials roulette. I really did give everyone a chance though. For several days I went in with a positive attitude thinking it's old content and everyone can do it now. What with the echo buff and all, it should be cake for everyone else. I ended up spending an hour + each time I was there because people still can't dodge and people keep saying "let's keep going until we have the full echo buff." Oh how that makes me cringe. . . Every titan hm experience I can say with full confidence, was exactly the same, so now I don't even bother if I get it in roulette.
    Got it once so far. All but me and a healer died at the end. We duo'd it and got 6 very happy nublets their relics.
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    0 commends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    Got it once so far. All but me and a healer died at the end. We duo'd it and got 6 very happy nublets their relics.
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    0 commends.
    Wow I actually gave it another shot today and the exact same thing happened, war / whm duo titan hm ftw. No commends either. It's one thing to get carried, another to be entirely ungrateful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aled View Post
    If it is in fact a bug in the system, hopefully it gets taken care of soon. If not, there should be something in place to discourage people from dropping immediately. It's something that too many people are taking advantage of and it negatively impacts other players.
    In my opinion, the punishment for leaving should be that you lose ALL bonuses from ALL the roulettes for that day.
    Leave at the very beginning of a dungeon? There goes the rewards for your Low level, High Level, Expert, Trial and Story Roulettes.

    Might sound harsh. But I loathe those who quit straight away.
    If you don't want to get a dungeon you don't enjoy, then don't go on the Roulette. Simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyreflye View Post
    In my opinion, the punishment for leaving should be that you lose ALL bonuses from ALL the roulettes for that day.
    Leave at the very beginning of a dungeon? There goes the rewards for your Low level, High Level, Expert, Trial and Story Roulettes.

    Might sound harsh. But I loathe those who quit straight away.
    If you don't want to get a dungeon you don't enjoy, then don't go on the Roulette. Simple.
    Too harsh IMO. More like you lose the bonus for that roulette, and if you left in under 5 minutes, you have a 1 and a half hour penalty for the DF. If under 15 minutes, a 1 hour penalty. Anything over 15 minutes is the normal penalty. It'd stop that really quickly. Also, I'd like if they made it so getting kicked due to harassment leads to a 30 minute penalty, but that's a different bag.
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    Unfortunately you can't put punishments like that in. I 90k loading into an instance so I lose my roulettes? Some dickheads vote kick me because I'm not the class they were hoping DF would give them so I get a 30 min lockout? They don't want to penalize innocent people.
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