Roulette Abuse?

[Megido]

How did they harass you? They inconvenienced you, sure, but they did nothing to harass you. If before leaving they said, "eww, Pharos again, screw this dungeon and screw you guys, have fun looking for another tank!" then sure, you might have a case.

But otherwise, for all you know an emergency could have come up and they simply had to leave immediately. You have no way of knowing what the reason was, and neither does the GM, so the person will not get banned and you are still wasting GM time.

Yes, its a different issue from getting kicked by a group of players than if somebody leaves on his own. There can always be the excuse made that it was an emergency and he had to go with no way to disprove it otherwise. Instead of reporting them we should keep talking about it on forums and such, and have the game itself find a way to handle with these players.

[Eidolon]

You don't incur a penalty for leaving in that portion, I noticed. And I think it's some kind of glitch o_o

[Aled]

You don't incur a penalty for leaving in that portion, I noticed. And I think it's some kind of glitch o_o

If it is in fact a bug in the system, hopefully it gets taken care of soon. If not, there should be something in place to discourage people from dropping immediately. It's something that too many people are taking advantage of and it negatively impacts other players.

[Pyreflye]

If it is in fact a bug in the system, hopefully it gets taken care of soon. If not, there should be something in place to discourage people from dropping immediately. It's something that too many people are taking advantage of and it negatively impacts other players.

In my opinion, the punishment for leaving should be that you lose ALL bonuses from ALL the roulettes for that day.
Leave at the very beginning of a dungeon? There goes the rewards for your Low level, High Level, Expert, Trial and Story Roulettes.

Might sound harsh. But I loathe those who quit straight away.
If you don't want to get a dungeon you don't enjoy, then don't go on the Roulette. Simple.

[RyuDragnier]

In my opinion, the punishment for leaving should be that you lose ALL bonuses from ALL the roulettes for that day.
Leave at the very beginning of a dungeon? There goes the rewards for your Low level, High Level, Expert, Trial and Story Roulettes.

Might sound harsh. But I loathe those who quit straight away.
If you don't want to get a dungeon you don't enjoy, then don't go on the Roulette. Simple.

Too harsh IMO. More like you lose the bonus for that roulette, and if you left in under 5 minutes, you have a 1 and a half hour penalty for the DF. If under 15 minutes, a 1 hour penalty. Anything over 15 minutes is the normal penalty. It'd stop that really quickly. Also, I'd like if they made it so getting kicked due to harassment leads to a 30 minute penalty, but that's a different bag.

[Nekodar]

You don't incur a penalty for leaving in that portion, I noticed. And I think it's some kind of glitch o_o

A friend tested this recently. He skipped cutscenes fast, the others were still in cutscene, he left... and got 30 minute penalty.
Not sure how people manage to avoid it, if it actually is possible to leave without penalty.

[Debeh]

I can't agree more how annoying it is to have to wait so long as a DPS to have to deal with this childish shit. I can't count how many times I've done dungeons tankless with my Titan Egi cause I refused to wait to get back into a DR/DF.

[ImDingDing]

role a tank/healer or deal with it. at least they left and ate the 30min punishment rather than afk/trolling to bait a vote kick and re-q again.

[Aled]

role a tank/healer or deal with it. at least they left and ate the 30min punishment rather than afk/trolling to bait a vote kick and re-q again.

My main is a healer, which isn't the issue here. And no, it's not specifically the tanks and healers as others have pointed out. Unfortunately, they are near impossible to find replacements for as it's not common for them to queue 'in-progress.' They can just queue for a full run with no problems. It's the people that use roulette, knowing that they are testing their luck with whatever instance they get, but still ruin it for other people that may have been waiting significantly longer than they have. And because the instance hasn't even really started yet, it's hard to say if they have even receive a penalty. Just frustrating.

[Darske]

Had this happen the other night in Thousand Maws. The healer (who looked to be in either CT or Allagan gear, I don't quite remember since I only saw him in the load-in cutscene) immediately disconnected as soon as we started. Clearly, only there for the quick tomes and didn't care about the group.

Joke's on him though, our summoner was awesome at keeping us alive, and we 3-manned the dungeon.