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    Hey guys,

    As I gear up with Lv 100 stuff and prioritize Det and Crit my SS is dropping really low, like below 400. Anyone know what the min number is to maintain GL3 etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Size View Post
    Hey guys,

    As I gear up with Lv 100 stuff and prioritize Det and Crit my SS is dropping really low, like below 400. Anyone know what the min number is to maintain GL3 etc?

    Thanks
    As far as I know, while having 400 or whatever SS is nice, if its below 380, you should be fine. It just means you last longer TP-wise in longer fights.
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    I don't have a problem even with 356 SS.

    Though Easymode's current stat weights put crit and SS on the same level and det is still higher (even though you get less of it), so really I don't think it's as horrible of a stat as we take it to be.
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    Before 2.1 (I may be quoting the wrong patch) it was somewhat important in order to use true strike every other rotation instead of twin snakes (the problem was the TS buff dropping). As far as GL3 goes, don't worry about SS to keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    What tier LB do you end up hitting the slug with?
    Tier 2 LB,more than enough honestly.
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    Thanks for the answers.

    I don't understand though why you don't use Fracture anymore. I mean it is as potent as ToD while being only 18 s. So you should have more dps using Fracture instead of ToD. Furthermore, Fracture has the same length as Demolish so it would be quite easy to apply and refresh it just after Demolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewena View Post
    Thanks for the answers.

    I don't understand though why you don't use Fracture anymore. I mean it is as potent as ToD while being only 18 s. So you should have more dps using Fracture instead of ToD. Furthermore, Fracture has the same length as Demolish so it would be quite easy to apply and refresh it just after Demolish.
    TP constraints. Fracture is a pretty high cost move. So when you determine if a move is worth it or not there's a few factors you need to consider. The TP cost next to the potency of the attack, overall TP usage for the duration of the fight, etc. Fracture's overall DPS gain isn't much, but it's cost is quite high so you will see a difference in how quickly you use TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewena View Post
    Thanks for the answers.

    I don't understand though why you don't use Fracture anymore. I mean it is as potent as ToD while being only 18 s. So you should have more dps using Fracture instead of ToD. Furthermore, Fracture has the same length as Demolish so it would be quite easy to apply and refresh it just after Demolish.
    Fracture's total potency - 220
    ToD's total potency - 270
    Demolish's total potency - 310 from the rear, 270 otherwise

    Fracture is quite a bit worse than ToD and Demolish. It also happens to be a large TP sink - 80 TP doesn't sound like much but it's enough to stress your TP pretty low in a prolonged fight. Not only that, you have to find a way to put in Fracture without intervening with ToD upkeep, Twin Snakes upkeep, and Dragon Kick upkeep, which while quite do-able isn't always viable and is only able to be fit in a few times in a fight. For all those negatives, Fracture is a very slight DPS gain. So slight, it has the potential to do more harm than good since it should be used at very specific intervals and failure to do so will be a DPS loss.

    Fracture's most practical use for the average MNK is to use it when you've got a forced disconnect coming up, such as T7's Shriek, getting Gaoled (assuming you're not getting out in 4s), having to go to the panels in the final boss of CT, etc. At those times, you can throw the TP and rotation constraints away and just use Fracture as a semi-high potency finisher.
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    Has anyone posted a BiS list with an ACC cap of around the 495-500 range? I seen the DRG thread has it all sorted out but I haven't seen any MNK BiS list come my way yet.
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    Karasumori this thread honestly needs to die and be restarted with the information being coherently placed on first post however no one really has the time or will to do it. The information you seek has been answered in drabs throughout the last 10-15 pages though....

    As for my coming here, I have near 900 Soldier and need advice on what to upgrade next. I have the body and we are very close to beating T6

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/M9Q9

    Any help would be appreciated before my event tonight

    Thanks in advance!
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