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    And the results are in, Grade 3 Thanalan soil as usual;

    1) Mandrake ===== 2) Pineapple======= 3) Mandrake
    4) Flax=========5) Mandrake======== 6) Flax


    1) Mandrake
    You obtain 12 mandrake roots.
    2) Prickly Pineapple
    You obtain 12 prickly pineapples.
    3) Mandrake
    You obtain 12 mandrake roots.
    You obtain a bag of prickly pineapple seeds
    4) Flax
    You obtain 12 clumps of flax.
    You obtain a bag of Azeyma rose seeds
    5) Mandrake
    You obtain 12 mandrake roots.
    You obtain a bag of almond seeds
    6) Flax
    You obtain 12 clumps of flax.
    You obtain a bag of Azeyma rose seeds


    The mandrake results are interesting because they all had only flax and pineapple as neighbours but they all yielded completely different results. The different ratios of neighbours may have helped - lackofwords' theory has been my assumption all along, which is why I've been using an oblong plot (well that and I hate how the scarecrow doesn't look right in Mist).

    This next planting is just alternating camomile and lavender to try and generate either Halone Gerbera or Nymeia Lily, but it's mostly so I can get together an all-second-gen planting for after this planting so I don't really care what happens as long as it's a cross-breed. Mandudez is probably right in that we're being too ambitious in expecting glazenuts and jute in one generation.
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    The spreadsheet (if correct) says that:

    MANDRAKE + FLAX + FLAX, with Mandrake being harvested = AZEYMA ROSE SEEDS.

    I see that FJerome's (above poster) MANDRAKE + FLAX + FLAX, with Mandrake being harvested again, is affected by the fourth adjacent (PINEAPPLE) because of using the oblong plot, producing ALMOND SEEDS.

    The T-shape (four seed combo) is real ;_;???
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  3. #53
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    It could be real or it could be that MANDRAKE + PINEAPPLE = ALMOND and I had a 1/3rd chance of getting that and a 2/3rd chance of getting rose seeds and just was unlucky.

    Also just to note I did harvest two sets of Azeyma Rose Seeds from Flax (#4 & #6) from MANDRAKE + MANDRAKE + FLAX as well, so it looks like any combination of purely just flax and mandrake may yield Azeyma Rose seeds.
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    Did you ever stop to think that you're taking the word "adjacent" too literally? Why would the 2x3 patch allow for better intercross potential than the large?

    It seems a bit backward to design a medium sized option with more pros than the large, since gardening's time sink is largely only desirable to get intercrosses in the first place. By continuing to limit yourselves to grids with 3 kinds of plants only you're providing great numbers for a control test of those 3 plants, but ultimately limiting to any number of further potential intercrosses that might occur if "adjacent" is to be taken in a less literal term.
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    It's possible that the large plots are meant for the factory farming stage, for once we've worked out all the inter-crosses and want to start producing ingredients like royal kukuru beans en-mass, so it may be that it's meant more for down the road than right now.

    Or you could be right. The thing is we don't know right now so I'd rather stick to small test groups with lots of replication because that'll be the easiest way to work out the mechanics of this all. A plot with eight different types of plants may yield more inter-crosses but then we won't be able to tell which combination bred what.
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    i plant my garden with only 2 different varieties not 3 its a perfect 4x4 grid and allows every plant to full cross class chances and also enables better testing eliminating one of the 3 others are all doing.... we are doing 3 large gardens on the one property at same time and yunie i know has many gardens as well

    a-b-a
    b-X-b
    a-b-a
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    Another Millioncorn + Pixie Plum + Apricot garden with no results today. Last one will be ready by tomorrow, I'm guessing.
    All the Grade 3 Thanalans down the drain! Sniffy sniff sniff
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    One single Jute, and One single glazenut ; ; both from ventures. Also confirm its not apricot millioncorn plum combo for glazenut seeds.

    Used Grade 3 Shroud soil on both the glazenut and the jute. It had no effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    The thing is we don't know right now so I'd rather stick to small test groups with lots of replication because that'll be the easiest way to work out the mechanics of this all. A plot with eight different types of plants may yield more inter-crosses but then we won't be able to tell which combination bred what.
    I can understand the sense behind this, and I wasn't intending to sound critical. It's just been eating at me that it could have easily been a result of translation that an idea like "in the same garden" became "adjacent."

    In any event, according to here, royal kukuru is probably a candidate for inclusion whether or not you believe in more than 3 plants belong in the same patch.
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    i planted a new garden let you know results in a few days hope its the magic beans (glazenuts)
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