Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Dervy]

lol 0 accuracy Pre-t9 w/o Allagan Cuirass gives us 524 SS... That's 2.32 GCD. With Selene, that's 681 SS, or a GDC of 2.17. omg

[VaShawn]

lol 0 accuracy Pre-t9 w/o Allagan Cuirass gives us 524 SS... That's 2.32 GCD. With Selene, that's 681 SS, or a GDC of 2.17. omg

So allagan cuirass better than myth chest for coil runs and dungeons??

With 768 sols I'm debating on getting the sol chest or replace my dark light ring with sol ring later this week?

[Dervy]

So allagan cuirass better than myth chest for coil runs and dungeons??

With 768 sols I'm debating on getting the sol chest or replace my dark light ring with sol ring later this week?

The Allagan Cuirass has a 1.937 heavier weight than the Wyrms Mail, which is quite a lot considering the Wyrms Mail is such a strong piece.

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I think it should be noted for the BiS lists, that they are not accurate unless you factor in the Wolfram Mask (crafted i90 head piece) melded a certain way. If you meld it right you can max determination and crit/ss and get +9 acc or, max crit/ss and have 12/15 det and have +18acc.

That's too much SS we'll be pumping into our gear. With the Liberato/Pre-T9 accuracy, well be near 493/4 SS @ the T5 accuracy. If we put a Wolfram Helmet on, that's now 511/512.

I know nothing about crafted gear, or their melds. But if you or someone could get me the exact stats for a Max Penta-Melded Wolfram Helm, I'll chuck it in my solver and see what sets it comes out with.

[AugustusSB]

The Allagan Cuirass has a 1.937 heavier weight than the Wyrms Mail, which is quite a lot considering the Wyrms Mail is such a strong piece.
I know nothing about crafted gear, or their melds. But if you or someone could get me the exact stats for a Max Penta-Melded Wolfram Helm, I'll chuck it in my solver and see what sets it comes out with.

I do agree about the multitude of skill speed, but what can you say; for some reason SE thinks it is nice to put SS on almost every piece of our gear.

That aside I'll show you some numbers; I already have all 3 (high allagan, astrum, and crafted i90) in my solver.

[EDIT]
Name Strength Determination Critical Hit Rating Skill Speed Accuracy Vitality Weight
High Allagan 24 0 18 0 25 28 27.672
Astrum 24 0 0 25 18 28 28.45
Wolfram 18 12 21 21 18 20 29.922

Wolfram Mask starts out with: 18 STR 0 DET 15 CRIT 21 SS 0 ACC 20 VIT

2 Savage Might IVs, 1 Savage Aim III, and 2 Heaven's Eye IV will bring you to 18 STR 12 DET 21 CRIT 21 SS 18 ACC 20 VIT
With the above meld, you are 2.25 weight above High Allagan and 7ACC below it
and you are also 1.472 above Astrum while at the same ACC.


You could also do the following melds:
2 Savage Might IVs, 1 Savage Might III, 1 Savage Aim III, 1 Heaven's Eye IV to get you 18 STR 15 DET 21 CRIT 21 SS 9 ACC 20 VIT
With this meld you sacrifice 9 ACC for 0.975 DPS weight to bring your crafted helm to its' max weight of 30.897

With the above meld, you are 3.225 weight above High Allagan and 16ACC below it
and you are also 2.447 above Astrum while 9ACC below it

The best part about the Wolfram Mask(crafted i90) is you can get it right now. ^^

[VaShawn]

The Allagan Cuirass has a 1.937 heavier weight than the Wyrms Mail, which is quite a lot considering the Wyrms Mail is such a strong piece.

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That's too much SS we'll be pumping into our gear. With the Liberato/Pre-T9 accuracy, well be near 493/4 SS @ the T5 accuracy. If we put a Wolfram Helmet on, that's now 511/512.

I know nothing about crafted gear, or their melds. But if you or someone could get me the exact stats for a Max Penta-Melded Wolfram Helm, I'll chuck it in my solver and see what sets it comes out with.

How does weight affect us? So you are saying stick with myth body over allagan body?

[Dervy]

How does weight affect us? So you are saying stick with myth body over allagan body?

Stat Weight, not literally, heavier :P

Sorry, I also messed up the weights slightly. If we compare Weathered Astrum Mail, Astrum Mail and High Allagan Cuirass with the Wyrms Mail, we can see:

High Allagan Cuirass has +11.102 weight more than Wyrms Mail
Suit of Astrum Mail has + 2.141 weight more than Wyrms Mail
Weathered Astrum Mail has -3.393 weight less than Wyrms Mail.

That's for 0 accuracy, remember that. The Weathered Astrum Mail, because of it's high accuracy however, can give you an OVERALL higher set-weight, as you can put in other pieces with 0 accuracy to meet the caps. Of course, that's down to the current pieces of gear you have.

Second you get that High Allagan Cuirass, wear it.

I own one ^^. But yeah just do the math yourself to get some peice of mind.

And Augustus, I'm sure that Crafted Gear has meld caps? So that 15 Crit on HQ wouldn't go above 16? Otherwise, with those exact stats you posted, it does show the Wolfram Mask in-slot for 496 accuracy BiS. But.. We get the following SS:

BiS - 460
Pre-T9 w/o Chest - 504
Pre-T9 w/o Belt - 542
PreT9 w/o Either - 542

That's stupidly high. That's a 48+ SS set boost.

542 SS = 2.31 GDC
542 SS + Selene = 704.6 SS = 2.15 GDC

Ye. That's us running out of TP in 2 minutes. That's scarily impressive. I might buy one.

[AugustusSB]

And Augustus, I'm sure that Crafted Gear has meld caps? So that 15 Crit on HQ wouldn't go above 16? Otherwise, with those exact stats you posted, it does show the Wolfram Mask in-slot for 496 accuracy BiS. But.. We get the following SS:

16 is the secondary stat cap for ilvl90 belts and something else, i forget, theres a great article on these boards (not this specific one) that breaks it down. It covers stats such as skill speed, critical hit rating and accuracy. Only determination is different with a cap at 11 (i'm sure you've seen this)

21 is the secondary stat cap for ilvl90 helmets, hands, and feet. Determination here is capped at 15.

This is also why i90 body and legs are useless until we get grade V materia because we can not come close to stat capping with only 5 grade IV or below materia. [EDIT] it is much higher with my guess (i never looked this one up personally myself but based on i90 gear) is 34 for secondary stats aside from determination which is probably 24.