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  1. #71
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    Luciano_Bozzelli's Avatar
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    Luciano Bozzelli
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    I like my Animus... and for the people on the fence, all they have to do is release one bad ass patch, where the updates are serious for you to say, I want one now. And then you'll have to go back to the fields for FATE's and begin your 12k myth grind, just to get to the new section, just to make it to the other section of upgrades. To each his own. We are all just giving opinions, but its hard to say something is underpowered which is not yet finished. And a few people want to believe its not gonna be good, just because they don't want to put forth the effort. Go ahead and fight Leviathan extreme 100 times, I'd rather get a weapon I can upgrade, cause then you'll just go fight Ra'muh a 100 times too hoping for a drop when he comes out to get your new weapon, and i'll be upgrading mines.

    So to each his own.

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    Last edited by Luciano_Bozzelli; 04-15-2014 at 09:41 AM.

  2. #72
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearz View Post
    Not sure why everyone feels so entitled on their time commitment with animus weapons. If you really feel Levi mirror farming or t7 is easier, go do that content instead. It is like mentioned earlier: As time commitment decreases, the content is harder. Sure weathered weapons seem so easy as you only need to beat t7 but that boss is the goddess of RNG and makes you want to pull your hair out.
    TBH T6 is a much more RNG fight than T7. Not much RNG in T7, just get the petrification mechanics straight.

    Anyways adding on to what Kluya15 said: yes those who say "get levi weapon" / "high allagan is better" - yeah man. TBH given the pathetic drop rate of mirrors which are worse than ATMA, I see more people with Animus than Tidal weapon. You can say whatever about the animus weapon having crappy seconday stats but that +2 weapon damage is way more important than anything else from your i95 wave/allagan weapon. Even if Animus is just +2 WD with sec stat and VIT alone it is still better than your wave/allag. People need to get this straight, especially DPS classes.

    High allagan? Wait till you can farm T9 then we shall talk about it.

    Weathered weapon? Some would say it is pretty silly to dump 3 weeks of soldier straight away for an i100 which I probably will agree to a large extend. Unless you really do not have the time for Animus, you should spend your ToS on other gears such as body pieces until you get the Sands of Time then you aim for i110 weapon straight.

    Whilst there are teams that managed T8 in i95 weapons, but due to the tough DPS check, having as much DPS as possible is a big plus. Having all 4 DPS using tidal weapons for now.. seems quite impossible and I haven't seen a team like that. But it's easy as hell for all 4 DPS to have Animus and ToS invested in body/accessories pieces for more DPS.

    Think the bigger picture, think further.
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  3. #73
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Supposedly, we'll later on be able customize this relic further?

    If so, it will be an amazing weapon as you'd (theoretically) be able to use its baseline and add a stat that would be useful to your build that's normally missing from the relic and only available to the alternatives, like Crit, Accuracy, etc.
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  4. #74
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moirear View Post
    Supposedly, we'll later on be able customize this relic further?

    If so, it will be an amazing weapon as you'd (theoretically) be able to use its baseline and add a stat that would be useful to your build that's normally missing from the relic and only available to the alternatives, like Crit, Accuracy, etc.
    Yes, producer said in future patches, just not sure if it's 2.25 or 2.3, we will be able to customize the secondary stats.
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  5. #75
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    Vita Rena
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    Yes for now animus seems underpowered compare to high allagan/tidal wave weapon, but aren't everyone forgetting that animus is the only weapon confirm to be upgradeable in future patch at least until 2.3. There is no coil update in 2.3 meaning that animus is potentially more powerful than high allagan/tidal wave weapon. Farming mirror to upgrade to tidal wave is worse than farming atma for me, I had multiple runs and have not once seen the mirror, in my group only 1 person have gotten the mirror while running with pug. I am taking my time doing the books now, and 1 week per book, I am currently at book 4, so another 5 more weeks to go to complete it. No rush anyway.
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  6. #76
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    Joanna Selenia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
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    There is only a 1 wd difference between the i95 wave weapon and animus. Stardust rod animus has 72 wd, spell speed and det. Wave staff has 71 wd crit and det. I would argue that stardust rod is only marginally inferior as crit is the preferred secondary stat for blm.

    As for farming animus weapon while waiting to get sands in t8 is not a feasible proposition for most players with the rng and grind involved in the animus. Getting to t8 itself probably also requires lots of time spent wiping and learning the fights. So I would say that getting both done would be near nigh impossible save for the exceptionally hardcore and dedicated raiders.
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  7. #77
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    There is only a 1 wd difference between the i95 wave weapon and animus. Stardust rod animus has 72 wd, spell speed and det. Wave staff has 71 wd crit and det. I would argue that stardust rod is only marginally inferior as crit is the preferred secondary stat for blm.

    As for farming animus weapon while waiting to get sands in t8 is not a feasible proposition for most players with the rng and grind involved in the animus. Getting to t8 itself probably also requires lots of time spent wiping and learning the fights. So I would say that getting both done would be near nigh impossible save for the exceptionally hardcore and dedicated raiders.
    I'm not really sure, I can't speak for others. My team are pretty laid back. Due to availability issues of our WAR, we literally did nothing for the past week after clearing T6 and only 2 nights ago we had some serious practice on T7. Typically we raid 4 weekdays for 1.5hr each only, we cleared T6 on 2nd week of patch and for T7 we are working on the last phase.


    Our DRG and SMN already got their Animus and I'm near (working on the 8th book).

    I understand that it is quite RNG but my personal experience is that there are more people with Animus than tidal weapon. Mirror needs hell lot of time and it's RNG as hell to. I'd rather go Animus where end result is confirmed rather than going for Mirrors - even less advisable for PLD/WHM since they need 2.

    And I'm laughing at the primal LS I am in.. as in out of fun. They farmed Levi EX from day one while I largely ignored. Only 5 or less of them have the Tidal version while I'm gonna have my Animus tomorrow or something...
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  8. #78
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    Joanna Selenia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
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    Wow that's fast. I remember seeing you running around western thanalan doing fates some time ago and doing a bf sr once a couple of days back. I'm still stuck on my second book though.

    Grats in advance on your new weapon
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  9. #79
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    Blueberry Haze
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    the reason is to why we have to put so much work into it now is when they made the game there was an over sight on how easy it was to get an relic compaired to v1 and since the ffxiv team had a strict dead line to re make this game from scratch so instead of delaying the game to re design the game to fix this they left it easy to get it and are now making it harder to get the upgrade id have to admit it is pita to work to get it upgraded but i am having fun working on it i love working toward something and the end result will be rewarding also the weatherd armor we all have now is also being upgraded as to the same way as the animus weapons since well all be farming t7 to get sands of time to get it up graded
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  10. #80
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    since well all be farming t7 to get sands of time to get it up graded
    Only that sands of time drop in T8 and I don't see many groups farming it any time soon.
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