FIX the AUCTION HOUSE!!!!

[Skapoc]

Simple solution is a listing fee that GW2 did. When you list an item you pay a fee based on how much you put the item up for. If at any point you want to change the price or take the item down you do not receive the listing fee back and must pay again when you put it back up.

This will strait up stop the undercutting war as person A who listed first and then got undercut would not risk losing more money trying to undercut person B who undercut them just to sell faster. This also forces people to pay attention to buying trends and list certain items at reasonable prices.

[Nayto]

make a stack of 10 or so items. Then undercut.

Your literally not breaking any rules, because most stores in real life do this kind of crap for the "3 for one " deal...
And if some idiot is competing with you, lower it again. If he's constantly competing with you, make him put it at a shitty price and buy it off him, then resale it to your original price with the new item you ripped off from him.

lol u like gambling? thats so risky hahaha for a risky guy

Making ARR was a gamble as well... funny you play this game.

[Oriana]

Simple solution is a listing fee that GW2 did. When you list an item you pay a fee based on how much you put the item up for. If at any point you want to change the price or take the item down you do not receive the listing fee back and must pay again when you put it back up.

This will strait up stop the undercutting war as person A who listed first and then got undercut would not risk losing more money trying to undercut person B who undercut them just to sell faster. This also forces people to pay attention to buying trends and list certain items at reasonable prices.

you have a point SE need to make something that will hurt people if they change the prince they need to put a litmit on this changing prince every sec min

make a stack of 10 or so items. Then undercut.

Your literally not breaking any rules, because most stores in real life do this kind of crap for the "3 for one " deal...
And if some idiot is competing with you, lower it again. If he's constantly competing with you, make him put it at a shitty price and buy it off him, then resale it to your original price with the new item you ripped off from him.

lol u like gambling? thats so risky hahaha for a risky guy

[Daemon_Windborne]

I'm a crafter so I understand that there often material costs that effect your listing price. You wanna make back your investment plus a little extra profit. However when it comes to market like xiv has demand is always going to trump material cost when it comes to an items true worth. Just because an item costs a lot to make that doesn't mean it will necessarily sell for the cost to make it. I pay attention to current supply and sale history. If an item is currently in low demand and/or selling for less than crafting cost I don't make it. Just like in real life it takes effort to keep up with an ever fluctuating market. Right now I'm making decent profit of glamour prisms, but every day I check the market and history. One day cloth prisms are in high demand other days it may be leatherworking. Also there is fluctuation between which grade is in demand.

[Bocajo]

If I were to undercut by a small value say 1 gil. I will come back in 20 minutes and see that none of my items have sold and now the other items are listed 1 or 100 gil below my items.

I aim to undercut by a sufficient enough margin that other sellers are hesitant about undercutting me.

Let's say 10 of a given item are going to sell, and there are 10 items currently up for sale at say 5k. Then I put 10 of the item up for 4900. Throughout the course of the day let's say I sold 3 items before I was undercut. I have made 14,700. Now let's say I put 10 items up for 3k. Other sellers are hesitant to lower their prices to this value long enough so that all 10 of my items sell before I am undercut. In this situation I have made 30k.

I will then make 10 of a completely different item and repeat the process, as to prevent supply overwhelming demand.

[Bluevann]

Unless they make it so that we can't choose the price (meaning same price for everyone), and the items are sold in order of date-of-entry-in-the-market, basically turning the Board into one big NPC vendor resupplied by players, I don't see how this could be helped in any way.

The only fix I'd like is to be able to choose quantity of items I want to buy off of a stack. God damn miners, I don't need 99 amethysts.

[TenshiHauru]

I don't think a price change cooldown will really help with this problem. All it'll do is encourage bigger undercuts because person B will not know when person A put their product up. And if it's an item that is low in demand and sells perhaps one a day, that cooldown may be enough to mess you out of that sale for the day. So it may very well lead to destroying petty 1-100 gil undercuts but make 1000-10,000+ gil undercuts more common.

I won't lie, I will lead a war against those who try that petty undercut game. In fact, I did it earlier this week with someone trying to flip an item they bought off of me. I will undercut until I feel like I am not feeling like I'm making enough profit off of it. And if it causes that person to undercut that personal threshold, I'll buy his/her's product or just leave well enough alone.
The fact is, many of the items crafters make are being sold at anywhere between 1.5 and 4 times what the mats are worth, leaving plenty of margin for profit. As long as I'm coming out ahead, I don't care.

A suggestion for something that may work: actual auctions like WoW has? For those that don't know, you can set a "Buy Now" price, and a starting price for bidding. People are free to bid on the item until time expires or until someone hits "Buy Now". Start the auction at the absolute minimum you're willing to take for the item, and let the players take it from there.

[NyxNoughtNothing]

In most markets prices tend to be fairly stable over the longer term, so if you see someone selling items in a niche you are focusing on at a far lower price point than the average price one very common strategy is to buy up the highly underpriced items and relist them at something closer to the usual point. This is assuming that the usual price somewhat reflects the cost and rarity of the item in question in which case it's unsustainable for others to sell the item at the lower point for any length of time. If they can then your preferred price point is simply too high.

Another game i played the market was more of an auction house in that you could see how many of an item were available, the last five transaction dates and prices, and the number of outstanding bids. The minimum price was not visible, so your options were to make a bid based on previous transactions, bid whatever it was worth to you or start at the lowest bid you think is likely to get you the item and increase it until you either bought it or reached the limit of what it's worth to you. It actually worked out pretty well overall.

[jgg1988]

I absolutly agree with this post.
In my server:

Cashmere robe of healing:

Cashmere Robe of healing 999.999 gil < RE*ARD ( the tipical re*ard breaking the auction house. )

Cashmere Robe of healing 1.168.000 gil < ME ( always 1 gil under the last seller )

[Bocajo]

I absolutly agree with this post.
In my server:

Cashmere robe of healing:

Cashmere Robe of healing 999.999 gil < RE*ARD ( the tipical re*ard breaking the auction house. )

Cashmere Robe of healing 1.168.000 gil < ME ( always 1 gil under the last seller )

If the demand was high enough to warrant the current selling price then the 999 item and your 1,168 item would have both sold rather quickly. Seeing how this item was listed at this low price long enough for you to notice it suggests that it was a perfectly reasonable price. Many people do not mindlessly buy items at whatever price happens to be listed on the AH. Many people have their own crafts, and if it is priced too high to be worth their time they will make it themselves.