FIX the AUCTION HOUSE!!!!

[LineageRazor]

There's no problem, and there is nothing that needs to be changed. If there's sufficient demand, then the undercutters will sell their product before yours, and you will sell yours, too. If there's insufficient demand, then the undercutters will reflect the new price, and you will need to adjust your price to match.

If you put an item up for sale, and nine people undercut you, and there's enough demand for twelve product, all theirs will sell, yours will sell, and two of the people YOU undercut will also sell.

If you put an item up for sale, and nine people undercut you, and there's enough demand for six product, six of the undercutters will sell, three of them will not, and neither will you or any of the people you undercut. You and the remaining undercutters will need to lower your price, because there's just no demand.

Cases where exactly the nine undercutters sell, and yours does not? SO very rare.

This is natural, and healthy, and there is no need for changes or adjustments, or weird taxes.

[Orophin]

An item is only worth what the seller is willing to sell it for and a buyer is willing to pay for it. If people continue to undercut me, I will do the same until it makes more sense for me to just vendor it.

[Macka]

They can't fix something that's not broke. What is broken about the marketboard? Nothing. You want a change not a fix get it right.

[Shai]

Honestly...

Undercutting is fine. That -is- supply and demand. The more there is of something (and the slower it sells) the lower the price will go.
Even undercutting by thousands is fine, because again it's supply and demand.

The biggest problem on the FF14 Market is the people who not only undercut by 25%, but also flood the flipping market with tons of their cheap imported goods.

If the going rate is around 5,000 (maybe 4800-5200 is the current spread of undercutting) and someone comes along and puts up 1 item (or 1 small stack) for 3000. Chances are that if the item is fast moving, it will disappear so fast it won't ever really (truly) impact the people fighting over the regular value of the item. It's the equivalent of having a flash sale basically. Someone there at the right time / place will get a good deal. Then it goes back to normal.

The problem is when some economic ignorant person comes along with 10 of the same item, or 10 stacks of a consumable, and pushes them all up for thousands less than the original going rate. It's moronic because there's no way he can sell THAT MUCH in a fast time. So it sets a new standard price that NO ONE wants or benefits from. He may sell 1-2 of his items, but someone sick of his crap (or impatient) will come along and set the bar even lower and so on. Those guys are the ones I want to punch in the face. I understand people who are ok with taking less money to sell faster, but I don't understand why someone would want to make his OWN returns even less than they would be if he only undercut by 1-2%. It's freaking infuriating.

[Shai]

There are alternatives that no one has thought of.

The Market Board could cap you at averages. It could exist so that you could NEVER set a price lower (or greater!) than 5% than the average price. A friend of mine who is a Market Board junkie was talking to me about that system from some game I never played. It basically would set the going rate of an item to the mean. If more people put it up (and sell it) 5% less than that becomes the new "base" price. If there is less available, and you can get away with it, you raise the price 1-5% and hopefully set a new baseline or get lucky sales while other sellers are napping.

This honestly sounds better, and reflects real life economy quite a bit more reliably. It would also stop people (not naming names!) from controlling the market. The more lower-priced items they scoop up (in order to sell high) the lower they themselves drive the price. It's a much better system, I think.

[Rapoza]

Only thing they need to do is create more demand for the items, its a simple as making a quest asking for those items, more recipes with the old items, etc

[Foo01]

What needs fixing is the OPs greedy attitude.

You are upset at people selling for less, but are your willing to pay more? Didn't think so.

The way the market boards work is great. The history showing the trends for pricing is also very helpful. I've priced items both up and down looking at the trends and sold accordingly. As far as I can tell the market is plenty healthy.

It is only fair to the rest of the community and player base that your NOT so rare item can NOT command top gil. This also blunts the the incentive for people to go to RMT gil spammer, and also reduce the desire for people to go gil farming.

Of course unless you are gil spammer yourself, you like to see prices for things inflated to hell.

And it was really good that SE did not make the market board an auction house where people bid up prices. D3 had their auction house, and I made plenty of real money (USD) off of it, and you had gold spammer up the whatevers and prices of stuff inflated to ridiculous levels which just makes it good for the flippers to generate funds or dollars. It is really good that SE implemented the market history. It is a great tool and it should help players not fall victim to being a mark for snipe bidders and flippers both on the buying or selling side.

[anguel]

(sry for bad english)

i sugested few month ago, about the AH to put a

BUY & SELL order

it will fix all the problem (from my point of view)

some guys dont want wait, and want undercut ? so why not selling directly to the "buyers" ?
of course those guys (buyers) will set a lower price to try make some benefit from it

and in same time other "normal" people will set a decent selling price for the item,
and if even so someone is trying to undercut the price "under" the cheapest buyers then the item will be automaticly sold to him
i think it wil stop our problem
for reference, im talking about something like "eve online" market, its the most stable AH game history have

[Daenerys_Sedai]

There are times I've been bored and found MB items up for considerably less than vendor value. Purchased and vendored. I'm not rolling in gil or anything, but it covers costs of teles here and there.
You could always try controlling the market buy purchasing the items that are undercutting you and re-listing.

[anguel]

the things its, there is nothing of value on the market, myself in FFXI, i was always chasing gils, in FFXIV just by doing daily quest or things randomly, my wallet keep increasing

to be direct, something like an item when used extend your game time by 31 days, wait befor raging or trolling,

people wil have to buy those item in SE homepage (so money to SE) and resell it in game for gils (will decrease RMT to i guess),

but things it, people used REAL money on it so for sure they will not want to undercut it, in same time people will stop to undercut because
they will want to buy this item, and will desesperatly try to make some benefit everywhere

i hope you guys are understanding what im trying to say, and please dont troll its just an idea