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  1. #221
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    Felendis Vreer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    The issue is what if for some reason (people have given enough examples) No one is able to login to the game for 35 days then they lose the house. The world doesn't revolve around FFXIV. If players have the intentions on returning then it should be there. I live in a area where Landslides occur Blizzards/Heavy Snow storms happen. My FC is made up of IRL friends and family who all live in the same area. Lets say we all decide to take a break for a month together to play another game or w/e we want to do, about 25 days into the 35 days before we resub something happens Landslide or huge snow storm and our town goes without out power and other services again for a few weeks. Guess what we are screwed because none of us can login to touch the house.

    There are many thing that can happen beside just work and problems in the house. There are thing outside of just not paying your bill that we as humans cannot control. Hurricanes, Tornados, Earth Quakes, Tsunamis. Yes these are natural disasters and don't occur very often but when they do it can effect many people. Will SE say "oh we heard a tornado went through a town in Texas and we are going to give anyone who owns a FC house a break so they can get their real life back together" No, Sure real life should be handled first. But still stuff happens look back at 2011 when the Tsunami hit japan and FFXI servers were down. Hurricane Sandy/Katrina are others they went weeks without power.
    Yes, in this situation I can see how losing a virtual house in a videogame would be really high up on your priority list.

    Why am I even bothering when people can just go, "BUT WHAT IF THERE'S A TSUNAMI?" Yeah. What if an asteroid crashes into the planet and kills everyone? I demand SE give me a refund if my full month isn't up when the human race goes extinct.

    I give up on this conversation. Rage in peace y'all.
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  2. #222
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    chocomaid's Avatar
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    Temis Altera
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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    I give up on this conversation. Rage in peace y'all.
    Thank you too for looking out for your fellow community members. Oh wait.
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
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    I gave real life examples of what could happen that could stop someone from logging in once in 35 days. A video Game probably isn't going to be number one on the list, But after everything gets back to normal I'm sure it will be back.

    Tell me what is so bad about SE extending the time frame from 35 days to 60-90 days? What is so bad about SE Converting the Loss of a FC house into a Land Deed and a Building Permit for the same size land?

    None of it will hurt SE nor will it hurt any FC that is looking for a FC house. Again if someone wants a FC house they would be crazy to wait for some FC to lose theirs so they could buy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    ^ hey guy you're right, guess I am being dramatic eh?
    I guess it could be worse.....


    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    You have no idea what an MMO is then do you? It's not meant to cater to the ones who can't sit down and play the game exclusively.
    I Guess some of us play different versions of FFXIV cause last time I checked my version caters to the casual crowd.


    I got stuff to do so I'll be back!
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-13-2014 at 05:52 AM.

  4. #224
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    ^ hey guy you're right, guess I am being dramatic eh?
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  5. #225
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    Meru Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Considering none of the wards on my server have been filled to capacity, yes. You will never know if the free company is actually inactive anyway.
    Actually, at least one ward on Balmung is completely full (Ward 1 Lavender Beds where ours are). The small house just below ours has a single sofa in it, and as far as I know hasn't been touched since the day that FC bought it. Would be nice if that rotting house went away so some else more active could move in. I don't care if it's 35 days or 60 days (the latter is more reasonable I think) but some sort of housing maintenance has to be done.
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  6. #226
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    not sure anyone gets what people are actually mad about.

    people are mad things are getting taken away.

    you would be mad if you didn't wanna pay for a sub 1 month or couldn't then they just got rid of your character because you weren't using it.

    while this may be small to you it's big to others, taking away their house is like taking away their character they work'd for it so they feel it's wrong to take it away for any reason.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I Guess some of us play different versions of FFXIV cause last time I checked my version caters to the casual crowd.
    FFXIV dabbles a very fine line between casual and full time, but you think in all your casual nature and approach to this game you cannot also spare a few moments in over a month to log in to hold your FC house if it's that important to you then you must really like throwing your money away.

    If the wrath of mother nature and a 7 day flood keeps you from logging in for a few moments in 35 days, then you have neither the time to worry about keeping or losing a FC house. The key point here is that regardless of the time limit, the only available housing at the moment is company housing, if your company is so small that you only have 4 people on ever (an example) then maybe you should have just kept it to a friends list or joined up with a larger company, if you made a FC to control what buffs you get then you also should realize that a house is not a necessary part of the game, your small company will flourish and thrive just fine without a house.

    If the point in time comes when SE releases personal housing and the timer is still 35 days, I would be more inclined to agree with the timer being too short, but as it stands if you have a FC that only consists of 2 or more members but under 10 and they all cannot be bothered to log in, then you should neither own and hold a piece of land from those that can commit to the game and should not really feel you need to have a FC house you cannot support. Time rewards the patient, maybe you should re-think your priorities and wait on personal housing before dropping an exuberant amount of in game currency and time to game content meant for larger more self sustaining FC's.
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  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
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    Like I said I don't have a problem with them taking away something someone isn't using. I just don't agree with the 35 days. I like to take breaks and so do my friends, Of the 5 other people that my FC consisted of 4 of them are playing ESO right now, I would like to join them at some point (but after FFXIV launch I'll wait) to see how it is, But at the same time I don't want to lose anything that I worked hard for just because I wanted to try something else out for a month or two. Yeah sure I could pay the monthly sub and not have to worry about it, But then it feels like I'm forced to pay. I don't know when I will take another break from this game, but if 35days is the limit I will make sure to pay sub and login. I'm just concerned about what if something happens that I cannot control and I'm unable to login or get somewhere to login I lose it. I worked hard for my house and I use it everyday I'm on, I also cant wait for them to add the Airship/Chocobo stuff. I also hope that my 5 friends/family will return to the game. But in the end no one knows what will happen to them down the road.
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  9. #229
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    I Guess some of us play different versions of FFXIV cause last time I checked my version caters to the casual crowd.
    I guess you have a different version of casual, because it certainly doesn't mean "plays every new MMO that comes out and ditches it after 3 months, then returns to it". Or worse "plays 5 MMOs simultaneously on and off (one at a time with periods of 3-6 months not playing FF14, playing the other 3-4 ones)".
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  10. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    FFXIV dabbles a very fine line between casual and full time, but you think in all your casual nature and approach to this game you cannot also spare a few moments in over a month to log in to hold your FC house if it's that important to you then you must really like throwing your money away.
    An FC can be casual or hardcore. An FC, casual or hardcore can take breaks. An FC, casual or hardcore can be a small tight-knit group or a large group. People keep assuming that every FC out there is a large active FC that doesn't require much thought.

    That saying, an FC that collectively takes a break due to another game (which me and my friends does) or just quits for an apparent reason shouldn't get punished just by not playing. My friend's and me included are pondering to play Elder Scrolls Online when our sub runs out. I don't want to pay a subscription just so our house won't get deleted. We plan to come back and keep experiencing a multitude of games. Keeping my subscription open just so I don't play it is ridiculous.
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