If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

[Miburo]

The happier people you are referring to are a minority of the community. Most of players don't have a house, or have it where they didn't originally want it. Offline people shouldn't take things away from online people, and unless they change FC housing to instances without limits of space for everyone (sort of like the Demon Door houses in Fable II, and I doubt they will), the FC wards will always be a limited privilege to only a certain amount of the community. As such, they should go to people who actually want and can make a use of it. Ask for a partial refund of the deed or the money if you want, but asking for time extension is just plain greedy. And it would make "happier" only that small percentage of players who can benefit from it vs the larger majority of players who wouldn't. Most of people who get an FC house, want to use it and have the time to use it. So this feature is not going to affect them at all.

Okay, they're the minority. So...
-It won't affect a lot of FC housing
-Meaning it won't do much good at opening up all these needed spaces for other players.

Making it pretty useless. It's like having a specific law forbidding people from ripping their own ears off. Most people don't do it anyway. So it'd be a stupid rule. By your logic, if it's such a small minority then what SE wants to do won't accomplish much. Making it a stupid thing to even implement at all in the first place. Or are you saying you don't care because you couldn't care less about minorities? Don't see why a person would point out that it wouldn't be the majority of people that would be getting bent over. Like that matters at all. It also contradicts the second part of your argument.

The rest of your argument assumes that housing is limited. It's not. There isn't only so much square yalms in all of Eorzea. The Lavender Beds is actually a multiverse of wards that doesn't have to stop at 5. They can put more wards in. So...you're wrong. The majority isn't going to benefit from having some small FCs lose their homes.


And again, people can take a break with their bros with the intention of returning to the game. So these people also actually want and can make use of their FC home too. And from a functional perspective, someone logging in for less than a minute once a month to reset the timer is using the home just as much as if no one logged on for that month at all. As far as other players are concerned it makes no difference either way, it accomplishes the same thing. Nothing will change in the game if the time was just set to 90 days to coincide with major content patches. NOTHING. Except it'd inconvenience less people and would make more sense, of course.

Small houses are very cheap, at 2~4 million gil. I can make that in 1-2 weeks on my own. Imagine with 7+ other people helping me.

Alright, I'll make an alt on your server and you can give me 2.4mil if it's no big deal at all. You'll be buying a HQ Point Proven. Sound good? Didn't think so.

[Arkista]

So is it fair to the players that are actively playing the game not being able to buy a lot because a party sized guild decide to stop playing with the "intent" to come back?

People are also missing the point if a FC doesn't want to lose a house then they aren't going to lose a house. And in the end it doesn't help any active FC. I mean if I have to take a break (my FC is 2 ppl atm) I will pay for the game login once in a while and make sure I don't lose my house. And once this is implemented People who want to take a break will do the same. As I said before SE is going to get lucky in the first 35 days, Because I think there are a few inactive houses near mine (Basements haven't been touched since added). Other than that there may be a few here and there.

As I said I don't have an issue with SE taking away the house of an inactive FC. I just feel like 35 days is not a lot of time. I've given alternatives to the situation. And I don't see why one of the two couldn't be implemented. I understand why SE wants to do this. On my server there are 1202 FCs, I don't know how many own houses but there are only 450 plots per server. I didn't check today but on my server in my ward it looks like someone bought a house near mine. But the other day there was like 21 plots in mist left across all wards. People with money are waiting on Certain Plots/Wards to open up. Waiting for a FC that isn't active to lose their house isn't what most people are going to wait for. I don't know how full other servers wards are but I have seen plenty of post asking when they are going to open new wards because players are waiting for specific plots.

Can someone translate that dev response?

Pretty much this.

Hello, everyone.

We do in fact have plans to add more land in the future, but I cannot promise a specific time frame at the moment.

Also, currently as of patch 2.2, houses will remain intact regardless of whether a free company is active or inactive. However, in the future, in addition to adding land, after patch 2.3 we’ll also be looking into adding a feature so when free company members haven't accessed their house for 35 days (Earth time), their house and land will be automatically forfeit in order to free up the land. We'll also be looking into a system that will display the remaining time until this happens.

Sucks to be you, join a bigger FC, merge, do something. Small houses are very cheap, at 2~4 million gil. I can make that in 1-2 weeks on my own. Imagine with 7+ other people helping me

No it really doesn't suck to be me. I have my own FC house and can do as I wish, Without having someone telling me what I can and cannot move around (Well except for the wife she I the decorator). With Duty Finder, Friends in other FCs, And LS mates I really don't have a reason to merge or leave my FC to join someone elses.


House are cheap now.... They always weren't. Just because you can make that in 1-2 weeks doesn't mean everyone can.

[givemeraptors]

Imagine a group of 8 IRL friends that wanted to try FFXIV, they got to raiding and experienced the content that they wanted to see. Those 8 people then realise that there won't be any new content for a good 2-3 months, so they find a new game with the intent of going back to FFXIV when new content is up. Do you think it's wise to pay a month or two subscription to just go check a house so it won't disappear?

Ridiculous. You basically want server space set aside for you at no cost while you go play with the competition. Good luck getting that to happen. Meanwhile, all the playing players interested in housing get to look at an unused plot of land for 2-3 months. Forget unreasonable, that's patently absurd.

Besides, if you wanted to be that much of a cheapskate, a hardcore raiding FC of 8 could contribute 2 bucks a month to keep the FC leader's account active to log in and prevent housing loss. If you're unwilling to put in even that much effort I don't know what to tell you.

All you're doing is posting a workaround to a crappy system.

Yes. YOU need to work around the system when YOU are causing the inconvenience. Besides which, I don't know what kind of game with a playerbase in the hundreds of thousands caters to the whims of a handful of people, especially if those people are asking for things that are only relevant when they're not playing or paying for the game.

Yes. Your demands will certainly be met /sarcasm.

[SchalaZeal]

Alright, I'll make an alt on your server and you can give me 2.4mil if it's no big deal at all. You'll be buying a HQ Point Proven. Sound good? Didn't think so.

I wouldn't give 2.4 million to even a friend. Why? For the same reason you don't give your butter to homeless people. You need it yourself. Sorry I'm selfish.

[Miburo]

^Like I said, you'd be doing it to prove your point. If it's not something you can just part ways with then it's obviously something other people don't want to have taken from them either, after all.

Yes. YOU need to work around the system when YOU are causing the inconvenience. Besides which, I don't know what kind of game with a playerbase in the hundreds of thousands caters to the whims of a handful of people, especially if those people are asking for things that are only relevant when they're not playing or paying for the game.

Yes. Your demands will certainly be met /sarcasm.

Oh, causing an inconvenience, you say? How so? Seriously. Keep in mind your suggestion when formulating your response. Since there is no functional difference for the playerbase if someone does as you suggest and logs in for a minute each month to enter their house or just not logging in at all. Meaning whatever inconvenience the FC is causing the playerbase will still be caused either way. And housing isn't limited since more wards can and will be added. If you're talking about bandwidth costs for SE, or whatever, then post where you're getting the information on SE's payment plans and such. Wouldn't want to look like you're just making things up, right?

There have been multiple suggestions in this thread that take everyone into account. There is no need to inconvenience the majority or the minority. That is also an option, you know. It doesn't have to be either-or. A plot and permit voucher and/or a 90 day time frame would not harm anyone, while benefiting the people that would currently be getting boned. Only a dbag wouldn't support something where everyone can benefit.

[Arkista]

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Dude again if it really must be 35 days and no compensation for the loss of the land, Then Outside of the first 35 days (cause people aren't going to know if their inactive) there aren't going to be many FCs to lose a house if they can help it. So you think it is ridiculous that an inactive FC house shouldn't be kept, But it will be ok for an inactive FC who will only login once a month, so they don't lose their house?

As I have said its only going to effect very few unfortunate FCs.

Edit I know what it is you must work for SE? You get a bonus by forcing players to stay subbed.

[chocomaid]

Ridiculous. You basically want server space set aside for you at no cost while you go play with the competition.

If you read, assuming you can, people are repeatedly telling you that smaller FC's don't need to keep the plot (server space as you say is reserved this way). Give them a voucher if and when they come back. No gil lost, bigger FCs don't lose. Smaller FCs don't lose. FCs about to buy plots don't lose.

Also by your logic, SE might as well delete my account and characters if I take a break cause I'm taking up server space I'm not using?

[Chasely]

I would honestly rather have a housing ward filled with inactive FC houses than one filled with for sale signs. One give the illusion people care but housing. The other makes it look like a ghost town.

[PlanckZero]

I would honestly rather have a housing ward filled with inactive FC houses than one filled with for sale signs. One give the illusion people care but housing. The other makes it look like a ghost town.

So you would prefer a hollow and meaningless illusion supported by inactive players who for all intents and purposes may never set foot in their house again... than have open lots that someone that actually plays the game could at some point put to use...

[Chasely]

So you would prefer a hollow and meaningless illusion supported by inactive players who for all intents and purposes may never set foot in their house again... than have open lots that someone that actually plays the game could at some point put to use...

Considering none of the wards on my server have been filled to capacity, yes. You will never know if the free company is actually inactive anyway.