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  1. #211
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    All of you need to realize that your over dramatization of this topic that you cannot possibly log in within 35 days is astounding! Full time job, family and RL commitments you still can get free time within 35 days, you don't need to play, you just need 5 minutes or less to log in do your thing, and then there you go your house is saved to you and your tiny FC.

    If your other FC members can't be bothered to log in to assist in times that you are gone then guess what, you don't need a company house or a FC with those members.
    If you can't get 5 minutes of free time (or less) in 35 days, guess what, no one will miss you if you're quitting. This space isn't your personal plot of land you pay taxes on, you may have felt like you invested a whole lot into one (and maybe you did) but if you did feel that your investment on a FC House was important to you then you'd also make time to log in once in 35 days or have a member do so.


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    Entitled.
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  2. #212
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    ^ You sound like you take FFXIV as a full time job. Many people play different games at different times, this is just one of SE's ways to keep you subbed, and/or cheapening server space.
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  3. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post
    ^ You sound like you take FFXIV as a full time job. Many people play different games at different times, this is just one of SE's ways to keep you subbed, and/or cheapening server space.
    not at all, I just get tired of seeing whiny people on the forums thinking they can't make time in 35 days.
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  4. #214
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    But you have the mindset that everyone's lives is circled around FFXIV. There are other games. There are other extenuating circumstances too.
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  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    All of you need to realize that your over dramatization of this topic that you cannot possibly log in within 35 days is astounding! Full time job, family and RL commitments you still can get free time within 35 days, you don't need to play, you just need 5 minutes or less to log in do your thing, and then there you go your house is saved to you and your tiny FC.

    If your other FC members can't be bothered to log in to assist in times that you are gone then guess what, you don't need a company house or a FC with those members.
    If you can't get 5 minutes of free time (or less) in 35 days, guess what, no one will miss you if you're quitting. This space isn't your personal plot of land you pay taxes on, you may have felt like you invested a whole lot into one (and maybe you did) but if you did feel that your investment on a FC House was important to you then you'd also make time to log in once in 35 days or have a member do so.


    Stop


    Being


    Self


    Entitled.
    Is it irony when someone portrays himself as a person that has no concept of empathy tells other people they're self-centered? I kinda think so, but not positive...

    I don't know if you're aware, bro, but you have to pay money to log in. I guess your handler deals with those things for you. So let's say my bros and I take a break from the game because a new game just got released and we want to spend some time with that, but have every intention of coming back and playing this game. Seems kind of dumb for one of us to have to keep his monthly fee just because SE decided to implement a stupid rule, especially when there have been multiple suggestions in this thread posted multiple times (Which you somehow missed) that would accomplish the same thing SE is attempting to do without forcing some people to keep subscribed needlessly.

    You might argue that the monthly fee is no big deal. I bet I can prove you don't believe that and would only say it to defend your poor stance. Pay my monthly fee for me if it's no big deal. I bet you won't. Because you, and most people, don't like parting with money when it's not needed. Guess what? Me either. And paying money because SE decided to make a dumb rule isn't needed, because the dumb rule isn't needed. There are better suggestions in this thread.
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  6. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    but if you did feel that your investment on a FC House was important to you then you'd also make time to log in once in 35 days or have a member do so.
    Sorry got interrupted.

    The issue is what if for some reason (people have given enough examples) No one is able to login to the game for 35 days then they lose the house. The world doesn't revolve around FFXIV. If players have the intentions on returning then it should be there. I live in a area where Landslides occur Blizzards/Heavy Snow storms happen. My FC is made up of IRL friends and family who all live in the same area. Lets say we all decide to take a break for a month together to play another game or w/e we want to do, about 25 days into the 35 days before we resub something happens Landslide or huge snow storm and our town goes without out power and other services again for a few weeks. Guess what we are screwed because none of us can login to touch the house.

    There are many thing that can happen beside just work and problems in the house. There are thing outside of just not paying your bill that we as humans cannot control. Hurricanes, Tornados, Earth Quakes, Tsunamis. Yes these are natural disasters and don't occur very often but when they do it can effect many people. Will SE say "oh we heard a tornado went through a town in Texas and we are going to give anyone who owns a FC house a break so they can get their real life back together" No, Sure real life should be handled first. But still stuff happens look back at 2011 when the Tsunami hit japan and FFXI servers were down. Hurricane Sandy/Katrina are others they went weeks without power.

    Anyways

    There is a difference between unwilling to pay and willing to pay but unable to. If someone doesn't want to pay and they lose their house then so be it, But if someone wants to pay and are unable to for w/e reasons then they should have enough time to get it done. 35 days is too short, 60-90 days should be more than enough time.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-13-2014 at 05:38 AM.

  7. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
    ...there is no functional difference for the playerbase if someone does as you suggest and logs in for a minute each month to enter their house.
    SE isn't concerned with catering to people that unsubscribe for months at a time. Of course they want to encourage actual playtime, but if they can't, a few of your dollars are enough. If you don't want to pay, don't expect to be served.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    So you think it is ridiculous that an inactive FC house shouldn't be kept, But it will be ok for an inactive FC who will only login once a month, so they don't lose their house?
    How is it at all surprising that SE is concerned with keeping people subscribed? I didn't make the rules, but if you want to break them, SE put in a blatant loophole that benefits them at very little cost to you. I reiterate: I don't understand how you expect to get service without paying.

    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post
    Also by your logic, SE might as well delete my account and characters if I take a break cause I'm taking up server space I'm not using?
    Yes, because your character information takes up the same amount of server space as a furnished house.
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  8. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post
    But you have the mindset that everyone's lives is circled around FFXIV. There are other games. There are other extenuating circumstances too.

    No, I have the mindset that people are being dramatic. I don't even believe that if you play other games you can't find a minute to log in to keep your house. Like I said, dramatic.

    Extenuating circumstances? Please, if they are preventing you for 35 days to play, then don't worry about it, it's just pixels. I am sure if your life problems you encounter are keeping you out for 24/7 35 days then you won't miss your video game house. You all boast about how a game should be fun, well months down the road you're hogging a plot of land from people who CAN and DO play every day for more than 35 days is selfish and a result they cannot have fun. I'm not saying it will be that way, but it's no different than the claims made by some folk here that 35 days means the end of the world for them and they can't log in and they lose their FC house.

    I think you miss the point, if your FC is so small no one can be bothered to log in for at least ONE person to save your home, then lose it.
    If your attention span is across more than one game and you can't be bothered to log in in 35 days to save your home, then lose it.
    If you think your life has taken a left turn and you need to log out for more than 35 days, I feel for you, I really do, but hey, that's life. Learn to let go.
    If you think I have millions of hours to supply this game you are sadly mistaken, I do however find time to make a few minutes to play or chat. Guess what? It's called planning ahead. If you cannot budget your time with so extenuating circumstances to play a game, then lose your FC home.

    You may not agree with my opinion, and I can respect that, but I really need you to see that I can understand your point of view, but I still think you're all being WAY too sensitive thinking the sky will fall and your world will crumble in 35 days to prevent you from logging in.
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  9. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
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    You have no idea what an MMO is then do you? It's not meant to cater to the ones who can't sit down and play the game exclusively.
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  10. #220
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    In Karnyboy's mind posting in a thread giving feedback about a game on the official forums that exist for players to give feedback about the game is being way too sensitive/dramatic/whatever thinking the sky will fall and the world is crumbling.

    Stop being so dramatic, bro.
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