If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

[Miburo]

But no one else in your FC could devote 3-4 minutes over 35 days to log in?

All you're doing is posting a workaround to a crappy system. That's not a good argument to support the crappy system, nor does it demonstrate that it's somehow better than the other options people have presented in this thread. What exactly is the purpose of having one person keep a subscription fee active to log in for a minute per month? Let's say everyone follows your suggestion and just does that instead. Does that make the game better somehow? What does that accomplish for the game, or the other players?

It does nothing except be an inconvenience for some people. That's it. Why defend that? Why not just support having the time extended to something like 90 days so it inconveniences less of your fellow players? Or the idea of the FC being given a voucher for a new land plot and building permit so any group of friends taking a temporary break aren't losing their entire investment? Those are both valid ideas that would make people happier while accomplishing the same thing.

I agree 35 days might be too short. However, someone will be just as mad as you are if it were 120 days. You cant please everyone. Sometimes you just have to deal with what you have in front of you, and if SE wants it to be 35 days they will do it regardless of how much you get mad at any of us on the forums....your not going to change things by getting upset with us.

Replace "35 days" with 8 hours. Your argument would still be saying the exact same thing: SE picked a time so deal. No. That's a crappy stance. Stop it already. The forums exist so we can provide feedback. You agree that the time they said might be too short too. So why not support the people who want a positive change to the game? It makes the game you clearly like a bunch better. It's better for the people you play with.

The dude posting bolded points for emphasis. Doesn't mean he's mad. He's not calling all the people supporting SE's stupid stance morons or dbags. Not that he'd be wrong if he was... So if that's your problem then get over it. He has a valid reason to be upset about the situation, and he's not insulting anyone.

[Tandy]

lots of angry words

I agree 35 days might be too short. However, someone will be just as mad as you are if it were 120 days. You cant please everyone. Sometimes you just have to deal with what you have in front of you, and if SE wants it to be 35 days they will do it regardless of how much you get mad at any of us on the forums....your not going to change things by getting upset with us.

As far as your ITS BEEN 6 MONTHS WHERE ARE THE PERSONAL HOUSES? business....they said clearly 6 months AFTER Free Company Housing, not relaunch of 2.0. Personal housing will be in 2.3 which will be /GASP #waitforit! 6 months after FC housing!!!!! Imagine that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Arkista]

Great^^.

Some people are for the argument that "Well just login once a month for 3 mins" and then the same people are talking about how its a good idea to take away the house so the Ward isn't empty? Are you kidding me lol? One member log into the game once a month for 3 mins so they don't lose the house I'm sorry but if 10 FC in a ward did this isn't it still going to feel empty?

Also another question to the People saying that wards will feel empty do to a inactive FC. Did I miss something in my ward or are There giant house parties I'm not invited to? I've been in my ward almost daily since I finished my Atma and I see a random person here and there. What are FCs suppose to do in the ward? Should I be hosting a dinner party? Each person that comes in I give them a drink and piece of food? Should I be hosting pool parties? Should I be having sleep overs? Someone please tell me what is suppose to happen in the Ward? People bought houses to show them off sure. But outside of FC member, What purpose other than showing of Furnishing does the Ward have? Yes market board, Summoning bell, Nice views.

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Ok sorry to be angry. And I'm also sorry I thought that SE said that Personal Housing would Be 6 months after Launch. An I know you can't please everyone but 35 days is just to short. I don't think it would hurt SE to push it to 60 days or even 90 Days. I even said that if it must be 35 days then SE should at least Convert the loss to a Land Deed and a Building Permit for the same size land sent to the FC leaders moogle mail or to the FC chest. The latter would just require a bit of work on SEs end but at least its not a total loss. As I said I doubt someone with a Medium or Large house would jeopardise losing theirs.

[Bluevann]

Those are both valid ideas that would make people happier while accomplishing the same thing.

The happier people you are referring to are a minority of the community. Most of players don't have a house, or have it where they didn't originally want it. Offline people shouldn't take things away from online people, and unless they change FC housing to instances without limits of space for everyone (sort of like the Demon Door houses in Fable II, and I doubt they will), the FC wards will always be a limited privilege to only a certain amount of the community. As such, they should go to people who actually want and can make a use of it. Ask for a partial refund of the deed or the money if you want, but asking for time extension is just plain greedy. And it would make "happier" only that small percentage of players who can benefit from it vs the larger majority of players who wouldn't. Most of people who get an FC house, want to use it and have the time to use it. So this feature is not going to affect them at all.

[Dyvid]

This is one of the best example of what I'm talking about. There are many Small Free Companies made up of Friends/Family or w/e. People Get burnt out on content, People get tired of lockouts, Or Real life happens. People take breaks. I have said over and over that increasing from 35 to 90 days would be more than enough time. We get major patches every three months, And people come back. Not everyone who plays this game is into the hardcore raiding aspect of the game.

So is it fair to the players that are actively playing the game not being able to buy a lot because a party sized guild decide to stop playing with the "intent" to come back?

[Tandy]

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At this point, you need to change how your posting if you want SE to notice. You have a valid point with it being too short at 35 days, but its totally and COMPLETELY lost by how your twisting it into a personal attack against you. If you want your opinion to matter to anyone in power, give it in a calm way and use valid logical points. If your only bashing everything others say no one will pay attention to the valid points.

[Bluevann]

Did I miss something in my ward or are There giant house parties I'm not invited to? I've been in my ward almost daily since I finished my Atma and I see a random person here and there. What are FCs suppose to do in the ward? Should I be hosting a dinner party? Each person that comes in I give them a drink and piece of food? Should I be hosting pool parties? Should I be having sleep overs? Someone please tell me what is suppose to happen in the Ward?

Aside the fact that there will be future features to be implemented to FC housing such as [confirmed]building airships to then use to travel, those things you listed all do happen on my server. If you have nothing to do with your FC house, free the plot and let it be claimed from someone who would actually enjoy it and make a use of it.

[SchalaZeal]

while being a more reasonable amount of time for something that involves destroying such a large in-game investment?

Small houses are very cheap, at 2~4 million gil. I can make that in 1-2 weeks on my own. Imagine with 7+ other people helping me.<

My FC started with seven players, five of them left after 2.1. Only me and my wife stuck it out. And they still don't have the urge to come back yet. And FYI I bet you there are a lot more small family sized FC with less than 10 players than you think. An FC can consist of one person for all I care. As I said before this game doesn't promote content for Groups larger than 8. Why have a FC with 10+ players other than to take peoples money for a house?

The last part, "with content no more than 8 why have 10+?" well, because, you know, people are not ALWAYS ON ALL THE TIME. People have different schedules, even when they work at similar times in similar industries and have similar habits. Imagine, in my 60 people FC, we're not always 60 on. In fact, going above 25 on is a special event in itself, even in the most peak of times.

And if you want a solo FC, deal with either always subbing or not having a house. Simple as that.

You have zero hope of obtaining a Medium or Large house I'm sorry. I'm 99% sure this wont effect them. The only hope you will have is to save the money and SE finally open new wards.

Large plots still exist on my server, not taken. We're still short 10 million for one. I'm also pretty sure mediums are available. Now the plot you prefer maybe not. A plot at all, definitely.

Imagine if you had a small FC maybe 5 people and everyone but you quit

Sucks to be you, join a bigger FC, merge, do something.

[chocomaid]

Man, this community.

Your FC is not as big as mine, so be stuck to always have a subscription to not lose your house!
Your FC is not as big as mine so you don't deserve a house!
Your FC is not as active as mine so you should lose your house!
My FC is not in danger of being forfeit so I'm just gonna torment the FC's that are susceptible to it!
Instead of thinking of ways to think of ways to help each other, I'm just gonna kick you in the shin!

Seriously though, there are ways to please both sides. People are so hellbent in getting a one-up on each other it's appalling.

[Naunet]

Well its good to see that some of the Japanese players aren't happy about this either. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...51#post2022251 this is the thread that got the original Dev response. The more I think about this the more it pisses me off. I guess I will have to pay FFXIV sub along with ESO sub when it comes out for PS4. Or I'll just have to find some people to invite into my FC just to use them so I don't lose my house.

Can someone translate that dev response?