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    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post

    Imagine a group of 8 IRL friends that wanted to try FFXIV, they got to raiding and experienced the content that they wanted to see. Those 8 people then realise that there won't be any new content for a good 2-3 months, so they find a new game with the intent of going back to FFXIV when new content is up. Do you think it's wise to pay a month or two subscription to just go check a house so it won't disappear?
    Ridiculous. You basically want server space set aside for you at no cost while you go play with the competition. Good luck getting that to happen. Meanwhile, all the playing players interested in housing get to look at an unused plot of land for 2-3 months. Forget unreasonable, that's patently absurd.

    Besides, if you wanted to be that much of a cheapskate, a hardcore raiding FC of 8 could contribute 2 bucks a month to keep the FC leader's account active to log in and prevent housing loss. If you're unwilling to put in even that much effort I don't know what to tell you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
    All you're doing is posting a workaround to a crappy system.
    Yes. YOU need to work around the system when YOU are causing the inconvenience. Besides which, I don't know what kind of game with a playerbase in the hundreds of thousands caters to the whims of a handful of people, especially if those people are asking for things that are only relevant when they're not playing or paying for the game.

    Yes. Your demands will certainly be met /sarcasm.
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    ^Like I said, you'd be doing it to prove your point. If it's not something you can just part ways with then it's obviously something other people don't want to have taken from them either, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    Yes. YOU need to work around the system when YOU are causing the inconvenience. Besides which, I don't know what kind of game with a playerbase in the hundreds of thousands caters to the whims of a handful of people, especially if those people are asking for things that are only relevant when they're not playing or paying for the game.

    Yes. Your demands will certainly be met /sarcasm.
    Oh, causing an inconvenience, you say? How so? Seriously. Keep in mind your suggestion when formulating your response. Since there is no functional difference for the playerbase if someone does as you suggest and logs in for a minute each month to enter their house or just not logging in at all. Meaning whatever inconvenience the FC is causing the playerbase will still be caused either way. And housing isn't limited since more wards can and will be added. If you're talking about bandwidth costs for SE, or whatever, then post where you're getting the information on SE's payment plans and such. Wouldn't want to look like you're just making things up, right?

    There have been multiple suggestions in this thread that take everyone into account. There is no need to inconvenience the majority or the minority. That is also an option, you know. It doesn't have to be either-or. A plot and permit voucher and/or a 90 day time frame would not harm anyone, while benefiting the people that would currently be getting boned. Only a dbag wouldn't support something where everyone can benefit.
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    Last edited by Miburo; 04-13-2014 at 04:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    Ridiculous. You basically want server space set aside for you at no cost while you go play with the competition.
    If you read, assuming you can, people are repeatedly telling you that smaller FC's don't need to keep the plot (server space as you say is reserved this way). Give them a voucher if and when they come back. No gil lost, bigger FCs don't lose. Smaller FCs don't lose. FCs about to buy plots don't lose.

    Also by your logic, SE might as well delete my account and characters if I take a break cause I'm taking up server space I'm not using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miburo View Post
    ...there is no functional difference for the playerbase if someone does as you suggest and logs in for a minute each month to enter their house.
    SE isn't concerned with catering to people that unsubscribe for months at a time. Of course they want to encourage actual playtime, but if they can't, a few of your dollars are enough. If you don't want to pay, don't expect to be served.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    So you think it is ridiculous that an inactive FC house shouldn't be kept, But it will be ok for an inactive FC who will only login once a month, so they don't lose their house?
    How is it at all surprising that SE is concerned with keeping people subscribed? I didn't make the rules, but if you want to break them, SE put in a blatant loophole that benefits them at very little cost to you. I reiterate: I don't understand how you expect to get service without paying.

    Quote Originally Posted by chocomaid View Post
    Also by your logic, SE might as well delete my account and characters if I take a break cause I'm taking up server space I'm not using?
    Yes, because your character information takes up the same amount of server space as a furnished house.
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